On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:08:00 +0200 (IST)
> From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: access problem
> 
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote:
> 
> > hi all,
> >
> > this is kind of trickey, so i'll try to be as clear as i can.
> > i have a RH 6.2 machine at work, functioning as a mail-relay to an
> > exchange server sitting in the local LAN, with NAT address.
> > the linux machine is in a DMZ, with 1 nic, real ip.
> > everything worked wonderfull for more then 2 years, until last week, when
> > someone did a hard reset to that machine.
> >
> 
> Yuck. It is possible that some files got trashed in the process.

thats my guess to... ;(

> 
> > as for now, users that try to telnet this machine
> 
> <ssh-advocacy>
>   Install sshd and use it!
>   Installing an ssh client on every windows machine is not practical.
>   Download putty and put putty.exe on some SMB share
> </ssh-advocacy>
> 

ssh is installed, but that does not explain why telnet isnt working.
i use ssh most of the time.

> > or get mail from it (using ms outlook) are
> > getting stuck in the autontication.the mail client gets stuck on
> > "verifying username and password" for 1-2
> > minuetes, and then gives up with a connection timeout.
> 
> Outlook has very strange-looking error messages. Figuring them out is not
> always easy.
> 
> telnet your-server 110
> 
> If and when a (tcp) connection is established, try writing the following:
> 
> USER username
> PASS topsecretpasswordinplaintext
> QUIT
> 
> (wu-imapd is very polite, and will give you a prompt for every step.
> 

telnet to port's 110 and 25 works. only mail clients cant get to 
authonticate. this is the most wierd part (?!)

> 
> > i forgot to mention that some users use this machine as a pop3 server, and
> > others use the exchange (all mail messages
> > are forwarded to teh exchange, except for users that have "CL username" in
> > sendmail.conf .
> > from the outside, all services work just fine.
> 
> pop3 over the internet? Consider using spop3 (when you have some time)
> 
> > this is not a firewall problem, since i unloaded the policy, tried and got
> > nothing as well.
> > for some reason, i cannot get to authonticate (as pop3 or telnet) from the
> > internal network.
> > there is nothing preventing me to access in hosts.deny .
> > i am able to ping that machine from the inside, but thats about all i can
> > do. nothing more.
> > i did not change anything,or even touched that machine since the last
> > time it worked, so there is no way that i did
> > something wrong in any of the configuration files.
> > the only change that was "made" was that hard reset. (boy, is that guy
> > gonna get it) ;)
> >
> > any idea's are welcomed.
> > tal.
> 
> Let's go one step at a time:
> 
> * Is anybody listening on the ports of the internal interfaces? Perhaps
> your programs only listen on specific IPs?
> 

there ARE NO internal interfaces.
1 interface (eth0) with 1 real ip. this machine is in a dmz, and the 
firewall translates everything to it. this is why its accesible from both 
internal and external locations, and vice versa (it can access NAT 
addresses).

> Use netstat -ln --tcp and see if any service listens on an address that is
> not 0.0.0.0 (=all interfaces).
> 
> 
> * Do packets from the clients get to the server?
> Use tcpdump or any other sniffer. This could be a DNS problem or a routing
> problem.
> 

no routing problem. as i said, i can ping it from the internal LAN.
also from outside.
this is not the problem.


> * Have you looked at the logs? Any connection attempts logged?
> 
another thing i forgot to mention : syslogd is running but not logging 
anything. the last log entry is at the same date when the hard reset 
acourd. i dont think that there is a connection, but go figure..


> * Have you eliminated packet filtering?
> Make sure you log any packet that you drop. Watch the logs and see if
> connections don't yield messages of dropped packets.

nothing of that kind. everything from the internal lan to that machine 
(DMZ) is allowed.
like i said, i even unloaded the firewall's policy to make sure that this 
is not a firewalling problem.
and this machine does not run any firewalling of its own, or filter's any 
traffic..its all done by the firewall.


> 
> 

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