On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 08:02:05PM +0300, Ely Levy wrote:
> > opera might not be complitly free but it's the best linux browser I saw so
> > far it doesn't crash at all it's VERY fast and it's not over massive work
>
> Ely, check out Opera's list of supported standards - it's amazing how
> many things they gave up (yes, and by a curious coincidence, HTML
> 4.0's bidirectionality is one of them).
If asked I'm sure they would add that feature.
> > like konqurer (which comes as part of the basic kde, they really learn
> > everything from ms) ro mozilla whichhas more and more useless modules
> > while not even being able to handle simple web pages without crashing
>
> The Mozilla team takes every reproducible crash _very_ seriously, and
> that I can tell you from watching few bugs in Bugzilla. Reproducible
> crashes with good bug reports are considered blockers before releases
> (such as 0.9.1, 0.9.2 -- watch the Keywords field in Bugzilla).
I'm happy for them they take it seriously and still there are crashes.
> On your part, you have to do two things:
>
> 1. Run a Mozilla build with the Talkback utility in -- sure it's
> a bit annoying to click Send when the app crashes, but the more you
> click, the more that exact crash gets priority.
>
> The nightly builds come without Talkback (which is a commercial
> component Netscape outsourced), but all the releases have
> Talkback, if you download the Installer.
>
> 2. Report crashers! Fill in quality bug reports, with step-by-step to
> reproduce the bug and add 'crash' in the Keywords field.
>
> If you know a bit HTML, you can be even more helpful: download the
> page and minimize it to a testcase, by removing all unnecessary parts
> of the HTML until you reach the minimal needed HTML to get it to crash.
>
> Don't bitch about crashes unless you can do atleast that minimal
> contribution (I'm not talking about fetching the source and coding).
Time cost money I have no sympaththy for Netscape and co.
if I would feel a bug report on every program I try to use then I would be
filling my days and night writing bug reports
instead I rather use more stable programs.
how about instead of saying opera lacking some features get people who
would but it (yea paying it's not that evil you know) if they would add
certain features, you would be suprised how fast it would happen
and how bug free it would be
Ely
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