Re: remote graphical usage

[Erez Doron]

to conclude,

as I see, compressed or not, X sucks on slow lines, so do vnc
the only operational solutions are either citrix or ( I'm not so happy to say ) Win2K's Rdesktop
with both, you can use a 33.6k modem and feel like you are connected directly to the computer

regards
erez.
 

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Erez Doron wrote:

> Adi Stav wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:59:42AM +0300, Erez Doron wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am looking of a way to have a local display/keyboard, which is
> > > connected on a slow channel ( i.e. modem ) to unix servers.
> > >
> > > I need a way to run X applictions on the remote server, and see them as
> > > they were local.
> > >
> > > I tried using X - was too slow
> > > I tried to use X protocol compression called 'dxpc' - still too slow
> > > I tried to use Xvnc - better but still not fast enough.
> > >
> > > anyone knows of a way to do so except using Citrix or X-win32-server
> > > over microsoft's rdesktop ?
> >
> > >From what I've seen a big hit on networked X performance is sophisticated
> > toolkits. GTK+ applications for example take ages to load and to run,
> > while old Athena programs are (relatively) quick. I suspect that this
> > might have to do with applications loading images onto the X server,
> > and that playing around with GTK themes and engines might help, but
> > I've never verified this. So I'd suggest trying using simpler X
> > applications if this is an option.
> >
>
> I do not want to restrict people to a certain type of apps

Again: do you want a complete desktop, or just certain apps?

Anyway, the fewer less graphics that you have, the better compression can
work. Have you tried changing to a theme with no bitmaps and no gradients?

Some programs have also a couple of GUIs. linuxconf, for instance, has an
Xaw interface and a gtk interface, IIRC.

> > By the way, why do you expect that using a different X server
> > (X-win32-server) would make it faster? I am not familiar with this server.
>
> No, the X-win32-server ( e.g. excced, Xwin32 etc ... ) is only to make the
> win32 X aware
> the 'remote'  is using the rdesktop that comes with Win2k servers ..

Does it work better than X-over-ssh (or otherwise compressed)?

How?

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Regards,

Erez Doron
Infineon Technologies Savan