> 
>    The sad fact is that Israeli ISPs do not know how to collocate
> equipment properly. The only world class collo in Israel is Med-1s
> facility at Tirat Ha Karmel, it's a atomic proof bunker as I 
> heard, some
> 4000-5000 square meters, some gigantic UPSs, generators, etc etc. The
> equipment can be collocated there in "cages", as it's know 
> for people who
> collocated stuff in the US.
>    Of course, 24hr access and such.
> 

I think that people here do know how to handle this stuff properly...
The problem is that most customers don't care that much, so 99.99%
availability is not justified economically. The moment customers will
start suing ISPs for unreasonable downtime, and refuse to sign contracts
without proper uptime assurances from ISPs, Israeli ISPs will adjust
themselves to reality and do what is needed.

I was envolved in ordering Frame Relay line for our company a few years
ago... And I remember perfectly well the funny stares I got when I asked
about CIRs and traffic assurances and such...

Haim.


> 
> --Ariel
> 
> > However, I think this is pathetic - a server room should 
> provide 99.99%
> > uptime, including electricity. Every medium sized 
> colocation provider in the
> > states provides this uptime, but when you talk to Netvision/Bezeq
> > Int./Barak/Internet Gold about guaranteed uptime they 
> scratch their heads
> > looking totally puzzled.
> > I guess it's all a matter of what the customers expect: If 
> customers think
> > that power failures are act of god that there's nothing to 
> do against except
> > pray, then there's no reason for Netvision to place 
> reliable UPS services to
> > keep the server farm up through the power failure.
> > 
> > 
> > - Aviram
> > 
> > 
> > 
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