Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> 
> >
> > Using Scroll-Lock or Caps-Lock is interesting from the practical point
> > of view, but from the human interfaces design point of view, it
> > obfuscates the meaning of keys whose meaning is originally clear,
> 
> Clear = you got used to it.
> 

I second that,

> > and forces users to lelearn a set of keys when moving from desktop
> > (Linux) to desktop (Windows).
> 
> I don't think that windows compatibility can come before usefulness.
> 

and I more than second that. People have learn new keys when moving from
vi to Emacs, from Word to StarOffice, etc.

> What about me having to teach emacs, pine, etc. a new set of bindings?
> 

The problem, as I noted before, is not in the bindings themselves, but
in the consequences to tutorials and tech-support in mailing lists etc.

> >
> > No free desktop (KDE, GNOME) has any use for Ctrl-Shift. What does?

IIRC, Enlightenment lets you set multiple desktops as well as multiple
screens within a desktop; and the default bindings for moving between
screens used 2 of {ctrl,alt,shift} with the arrows. I switched to KDE,
and I don't remember the details.
> 
> So what?
> 
> Basically there should be a default, and it should be easy to change.
> 
This is the important point: Using modifiers as keys is bad for you.
AFAIK, you cannot set keyboard shortcuts to ctrl-shift in KDE nor GNOME,
because for both of them these are not key presses. It would be better
to have no default bindings, with a Win3.1-like language-icon system,
than to try to force ctrl-shift to be a legitimate key.

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