Hi
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Having been on the mailing list for some time now one thing has become
> plain to me ; and that is that the manner in which some people reply to a
> request for help is just downright rude. Winning friends and influencing
> people?
>
>
> At 16:22 13/04/01+0300, Omer Zak wrote:
> >I believe that Guy Keren did disservice by apologizing to Yotam Rubin.
> >Yotam Rubin deserves no such apology!
> >
> >There is a separate mailing list for newbie questions, and the regular
> >Linux-IL subscribers' time is too precious for clueless newbie questions
> >
> If one does not like the e-mail in question, don't reply to it. How
> arrogant is that sentence! And who replies to the ""clueless newbie
> questions"" on the newbie mailing list?Some lesser individual who can
> afford to waste his precious time?
> Tried your "newbies mailing list" almost a year ago and found it to be a
> dismal flop from an information point of view.
I believe things got a little better since.
One of the reasons I answer questions on the gnubies-il list is that those
questions should not end up in linux-il (although ther was one such double
post this week).
I am not the only one from this list to answer questions on
gnubies-il. One of the many others is "Mr Keren" ;-)
The linux-il list is not for newbies, and there _are_ places for newbies
(e.g.: gnubies-il). This is not out of arrogance. This is to keep linux-il
interesting enough, so people will subscribe, and people will be able to
answer the tougher questions (those that are not simply answered with a
google search).
>
> >New users who didn't read the FAQ when they subscribe to the Linux-IL
> >mailing list deserve whatever flames that get thrown at them.
> >(BTW:who is the current FAQ maintainer, is the FAQ sent to new
> >subscribers, does it contain clear warnings about posting newbie
> >questions and the proper venues for newbie questions?)
> >
> >It seems that enoughtime has passed since the last time this kind of
> >discussion was held, and now the war between misguided supporters of
>
> War??Is this a serious Linux mailing list or just some silly student
> prank? Is this how Linux "experts" behave around the world?
"war" as in "flame war".
http://www.jargon.8hz.com/jargon_21.html#TAG642
> >clueless newbies and those who respect the oldtimers' time - must be
> >re-fought.:-(
>
> Why don't the people who maintain this list draw up a standardised form for
> the submission of questions relating to Linux problems. It could be on
> IGLU. Anyone needing help could fill it in and submit it to the list. It
> would need the required research to be done to be filled in correctly, and
> could be read with the minimum of "time wasted"!
Because this is not a newbies list. The assumption is that whoever posts
questions here does not need such a nagging baby-sitting form.
And besides, different problems require different information. Such a form
would become bloated and not accurate at the same time :(
However, if you wish to add sections to the FAQ regarding common problems
and how to report/solve them, you can use http://linux.org.il/faq/
--
Tzafrir Cohen
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http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
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