Its not that more Optic Cables have been put between Israel to USA but the
Routers can control more information now then ever.
So expect prices to go down as general approach this day is to lower the
routers prices ( at last :)
for what speed available by cisco and other companies check this link & don't
fall of your chair :)
http://www-sci.lib.uci.edu/HSG/AATimeCalc.html
guy keren wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Ely Levy wrote:
>
> > You actually sort of proved my point,
> > it's not a problem in ISP but in how israel treat them.
> > With how bezeq leech small isps and make them pay tons of money for
> > tashtiot. and how the israel govermenet doesn't do anything about it.
>
> my dear miss-informed ely. bezeq has very little to do with prices of
> _international_ links from israel to europe or the USA. such links are
> leased from companies such as med1 (or their name is lev1), euronet,
> israsat, etc.
>
> > the reason 012 gives such low prices it cause they have thier own link to
> > the backbone.
>
> the reason they give such prices is because they use them out as a 'loss
> leader'. they are loosing on their internet business, like everyone else
> in the industry here. only the smaller ISPs are standing on the break-even
> point (and remain there for quite a while so far, except those that went
> bankrupt over time).
>
> so, get this strait - the price of leased lines between israel and abroad
> has got nothing to do with bezeq. it does shrink dramatically over time,
> but is still much higher then it is in the states (for example). one
> reason is probably because we're still a small market. as the market
> grows, so will these prices reduce, until (perhaps) we get to the price
> levels you have in the states. _then_ you'd be able to expect high
> bandwidth.
>
> for a slight comparison - in 1996, a fiber-optic T1 link to the states
> cost about 1,000,000$ per year. a satellite link cost around 750,000$.
> at those days you could fit approximately 200 concurrent users on such a
> link to give them their full bandwidth (of an 28.8kbps modem).
> these days, you can buy such links at a price of (approximately) 100,000$
> or 200,000$ a year (i might be wrong by a factor of 2, btw). so the price
> was reduced by a factor of 5 or 10. at the same time, the bandwidth users
> take has grown significantly - many business users using frame relay and
> sifranet links. regular modems download at approx. 40kbps (assuming a
> 57.6kbps modem manages to make a connection on at that speed due to
> various line condition problems). many users use ISDN (64kbps). some use
> dual isdn (128kbps), and a few use ADSL and cable modems. so you can't put
> 200 users on a T1 link now - you can put much less then that (probably 100
> or less, to get a satisfactory speed).
>
> there are also other factors in the game, but i hope this gives you some
> idea. i'm not sure about the accuracy of my current figures, btw. and
> these figures are changing every few month due to increased competition.
> and no - bezeq is not very much in this game. and no - israeli ISPs don't
> buy their bandwidth from bezeq. in fact, many now buy it from kavei zahav
> and barak (which probably bought it from med1 and co.).
>
> --
> guy
>
> "For world domination - press 1,
> or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
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