> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001, Chen Shapira wrote about "RE: USB modem Linux driver":
> > BTW, what's so bad about bloatware? Diskspace is pretty cheap these days.
> > And I'd rather have that programmer at hp be working on new features,
> > plucking out bugs, or writing neat tools rather than making it 1M smaller.
>
> Personally I'm not bothered by the disk space usage - I'm more bothered
> by programs that because of their bloatware (for lack of a better term)
> design take forever to run, take a huge amount of memory while running,
> and generally behave like elephants, not agile cheetahs.
>
> Star Office is the best example - I like it, and we don't have anything
> better (correct me if I'm wrong), but it is a monstrosity. Takes a huge
> amount of disk space (250 Megabytes!!), takes forever to run (about a
> minute to start up) and uses half of the available memory.
>
> Another horrible bloatware is Netscape 6...
>
Those are good examples:
If you have to add or change something fundamental, like Hebrew or other
foreign language support, you have to redesign the app (netscape -> mozilla).
Then you really get bothered about the size. And what about fixing bugs or let
others view your code?
And from the user point of view, what about distributing the app to others: A
small program can be copied with diskettes, no need to burn a CD or wait some
long time on the net.
To conclude: short sophisticated programs will probably be looked after
forever,
no matter how the chip speed will increase or how much memory space is
available.
BTW: about not having something better then star office, how is abiword? Is it
correct that star office does not have Hebrew support?
> XEmacs (or Emacs) is a half way to being bloatware. Most of the disk-space
> it uses is packages that can be loaded when needed on runtime, so it doesn't
> have to start slowly or use up tons of memory when it runs. But in reality,
> when you use a dozen different packages like I use, startup can be pretty
> slow (say, 10 seconds) and this becomes annoying - so annoying that I never
> start and stop Emacs: I use "gnuclient" to start new windows on an existing
> XEmacs process. With gnuclient, XEmacs is indeed a cheetah and a delight to
> work with.
>
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