On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 08:08:27AM +0200, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:
> AS>> Your opinions are yours, of course, but I think you are
> AS>> misrepresenting RMS here. He has always objected to limiting the use
> AS>> of software. Consider his recent review of the new APSL (Apple Public
>
> Well, so he's a hypocrite here. Because when it is regarding his software
> (specifically readline) he is actively objecting making programs that are
> interoperable with (link with) this library but not GPL - thus limiting
> use, not only distribution. I already quoted RMS on that on the list.
That's "work based on the program", NOT use. Were there a limit on
use, you wouldn't have been able to use readline in a proprietary
in-house project, for example.
> Also, if you had read discussion on /. some couple of months ago on GPL
> 3, RMS said specifically that he wants to plug "appserver loophole". Means
> limiting use again.
You haven't yet seen the GPLv3, but you have already decided that it
will limit running programs and that RMS is a therefore a hyprocrite.
> Actually, nowdays it's pretty much impossible to distinguish between
> separately distributing two parts of the application and making two
> applications interoperable.
New technology is giving the legal system new challenges every
day. That is not new, and it doesn't mean that copyright laws are no
longer relevant to technology, as much as I wish they weren't.
> Term "derived work" is not defined and never
> was, and yet less there's any hope it will be.
What makes you think "derived work" (or "work based on the program",
as the GPL refers to it) is undefined? I am not lawyer, but neither
are you, and everybody else seems to think otherwise.
> A good lawyer probably will
> tear in shreds any "derived work" claim but simply copying the code, and,
> alternatively, make two pieces of software that came once in touch
> "derived work" of each other - depending on who pays him. Using such words
> in a (wannabe) legal document is very unfortunate move.
It held fine for the past 10 years.
- Adi Stav
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