Hello Stanislav

On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:

> OH>> The wrong thing is that they are getting money for programs that
> OH>> volunteers did _FOR FREE_, on their own time. instead of giving
> OH>> the money for the volunteers I'm giving it to the company who
> OH>> packed this and made some nice setup program ? no thanks. they
> OH>> should release the d/l version while selling it, imo.

> That's utter bull. SuSE has a bunch of software written by paid SuSE
> employees. It also does all the packaging, testing and QA for you. And
> believe me, this requires a hell of a lot of time (read: money in
> salaries, office rentals, equipment and inrfastructure). You don't like
> it, try downloading all the packages you've got with SuSE from source,
> compiling them and getting them right. Try this on 50 machines now. You
> liked it? Well, you just saved $30 (or how much is it). If the time you
> wasted on this is worth less than $30, I'm sorry for you.

SuSE employees are programming a bunch of software. What I said is, that
there are people such as Koshelev Maxim (Downloader for X's author)
who build programs at least as big as all the suse programs (yast + some
bash scripts. It's not a 'bunch' of software imo), and get _NOTHING_. He
works pretty hard, you can compare his program to yast (just counted,
about 22,000 lines of code), and ofcourse that he is just an example of
lots of other people. I gave him for example, because of what he wrote in
his 'TROUBLES' file:
====
3.I need a sponsor because I have no money for dialup connection :(
(currently I have free connection at one of my job but it cannot
be free forever)
====

This makes me think- why would suse get this money for others' softwares
too ? Think about it in a simple way- the company sells an operation
system which includes tons of software, and gets money for this, just as
microsoft get their money for their os + the additional software.
the only different thing is that 99% of these additional softwares are not
made by them, and were made for free by volunteers.

Cya,
Oren.


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