Ely Levy wrote:

> Face the fact that in life you sometimes have to pay for stuff.
> GNU idiology was that you don't need to pay for programs or source.
> But the arguement of the people who opppose it , is exaclly people who
> abuse the service giving by the source.

That was never the GNU (or actually FSF) ideology and reading this makes 
me wonder if have ever seriously tried to read the FSF Manifesto.
You really should pay the FSF website a visit - you'll be suprised: they 
are selling their software for money. What the FSF really said, in a 
nutshell, is that when you do SELL the software, you need to provide the 
buyer or user with the full rights she should get. That's very different 
from what you're saying.

> You use thier servers to send the SMS , you sent it on thier network,
> and all they ask you is to register before.
> I think that more than fair, and I think that if enough people would do it
> the other portals way they would probebly close thier site.
> And for a fair reason. 

That all sounds very reasnoable until you consider the facts carefully:
Orangle says they are limiting their service for 20 SMS a day per user 
to combat "abuse". But what is this "abuse"?

There are two answers:

1. Abuse to a single user, when someone sends them messages they don't 
want (a la SPAM).
2. Abuse to the system, when someone sends a lot of messages that costs 
too much or hurt the system.

BUT, the stupid registration sysem does not solve any of these two 
problems: as Nadav's script demonstrates so beautifully, it is a simple 
matter to code around this silly limitation. And if Nadav was really 
evil, he could have simply disguise his script activities by using a big 
ISP proxy and no one would be able to block him (and the fact he didn't 
means he is a really Good Guy(tm) ;-)

So this idiotic limit is some poor idiots attempt at security, but all 
it does is bother the legal users.

The really simple solution is for the Orange to enable each user to 
*choose* a mailbox to which every mail that is sent gets sent to the 
user. This makes the problem the same one hat every user already has 
with his regular email (and most people I know get along pretty ok with 
the same problem with email). As for problem number 2 - there is no 
solution, but at least were not hiding our head in the sand pretending 
there is.


Gilad.

> 
> Phreakers finally getting to israel.. 
> 


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