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From: "Dani Arbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tomer:
> 1) This 64Kbs upstream limit was not implemented yet.
I read opinions to the contrary on Bezeq's ADSL forum. most of the people
there doesn't strike me at too technical persons, but their description of
upload and download rates suggests that Bezeq do implement the 64k limit.
Bezeq's sales person verified this (but what do they know, right ? :-), said
that upgrading will be possible later, said it's not available right now and
refused to comment on a time frame in which it will be available or how much
it will cost (though, again, the ADSL forum on Bezeq's site suggested 200
NIS for aditional 64k a month as a nice round figure - seems way too
expensive to me).

> 2) Normal ratio for home user d/l:u/l is 10:1 , so this 64Kbs u/l limit is
> equvivalent to 640 Kbs d/l. ou do not get this with ISDN.
Could you explain the last sentence, please ? what can't I get with an ISDN,
the download rate ?
I know I can't get that with an ISDN, but I'm not a normal home user - I
have a web server which I would like to have maximum upstream rate for. a
typical use for me (since I don't get home much ;-) would be a much higher
upload then download.

A summary of costs (please correct me if I'm wrong):

ISDN - one time:
ISDN card (400~800 NIS)
ISDN line installation (~1000 NIS)
ISDN - monthly:
Bezeq maintainance (90 NIS)
Bezeq usage (monthly flat for internet - 100NIS)
ISP (monthly flat 128k - 90 NIS)
total monthly - 280 NIS

ADSL - one time:
ADSL installation (~450 NIS)
ADSL - monthly:
Bezeq maintainance (45 NIS) {for the normal Bezeq line the ADSL uses}
ISP (monthly flat - ~180NIS) {assuming double what I currenlty pay for ISDN.
I'm hopeful it wouldn't be that much}
total monthly - ~230 NIS (limited to 64k u/l)

these figures suggest that I should move to ADSL, as the aditional cost of
an ISDN card (I already have a line) would pay it self in over a year (and I
never plan that far ahead :-). on the other hand, as I understand,
downgrading my line from ISDN to a normal line also costs, which might
change the whole picture.

Thanks for going off-topic :-)

Oded

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