On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:58:15PM +0200, Oren Held wrote:
> > I don't really understand what are 'hebrew X keysyms'.. I use wmkeyboard,
> > which is a windowmaker applet that remaps the keyboard to hebrew.
>
> There's a difference between just feeding the ASCII symbols for
> Hebrew, and using a map which supplies Hebrew keysyms.
> In the previous case (your case), the application has no way
> to know what language the text was intended to be written in.

The only problem here is that (due to a stupid design) the X Input Method
extetion - XIM) requires that you set your language (LANG, or at least
LC_CTYPE) to "he" to allow most standard X programs to read hebrew_*
chars. Otherwise they'll simply ignore them.

This is not a special issue of Hebrew. This is the case with any character
set. Thus with most X apps one cannnnot write with both Hebrew and
russian.

Mozilla indeed does not use the standard XIM, and so is gtk2 . As for qt:
I'm not sure about qt2 (qt3 won't have that limitation).

>
> > as I wrote in bugzilla, in netscape 4.x it worked fine. What program do u
> > use for switching into hebrew ? What mozilla ver?

And indeed it works fine woth most X apps, since they simply translate
the X char to a standard C char. Only programs like mozilla (and kde2?)
aare bothere by the fact that those chars are not "proper" hebrew hebrew
chars.

But the problem is that once you'll set your LC_CTYPE to "he" (again,
assuming that the locale is properly set), then the "iso8" hebrew
characters will not be valid input characters, and will be ignored.

>
> Standard XFree86 XKB extension.
> Mozilla has supported multilingual input since the very first versions.
> What XFree86 version do you have?
>
> Tzafrir, do you have some ready guide on installing Hebrew keymaps?

Sort of:

http://linux.org.il/faq/ -> keyboard

I've sent a newer il symbols file to this list recently (the existing
symbols files are terribly messy).

Spesiifically the item with the misleading name "I can't write hebrew in
kedit".

Hopefully I'll have the notes for my lecture on Monday (Hebrew in Linux)
availble online ASAP.

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir


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