Ok, I'll bite this one...
Ira, regarding your first post:
> (scroll to fourth item)
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/13/1642213
You're more then welcome to take a look at the kde-devel archive at:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&r=1&w=2 to see their response. I
remembered that I posted an email there to ask about their reply. You
can read all of them here..
>
> > The GPL never was and never was meant to be some kind of a goal to reach
> > or a flag to wave. The only reason the GPL was written is to promote the
> > free software cause.
> >
> > Being pro-GPL is stupid. Being pro Free Software is good. KDE is free
> > software. Qt-2.* is free software. Debian's position on illegality of
> > kde is petty lawyerese from the distribution that's supposed to be
> > farthest away from this stuff.
>
> QT is NOT free software, and as such it does not settle with GPL of KDE
> as it is distributed today.
Nop. KDE is not free software, but Linus, ESR and others call them
open-source. and open-source doesn't mean always free software.
[snip]
violating or bending the GPL is one thing,
> but taking others' GPL code from outside the KDE project when the clash
> is a known issue is REALLY rude.
Mind expanding this issue a bit? I don't understand u well Ira.
>
> KDE is starting to look like windows. features stripped away from the
> GUI to dumb down the experiance, and a few products (the item mentions
> kISDN, haven't checked) are moving from GPL to Shareware. now I know
> it's not a sign for everybody else's opinions in the KDE developer
> community, but it's making me uneasy. therefore I avoid it.
KDE is indeed looks similar to Windows in some parts. GNOME is doing the
same.(and may I remind anybody the article that Miguel bragged about
buying an Excel book to copy part by part all Excel look to GNOME?).
People who are lots of years using Unix/Linux as their only platform (ot
most of them) tend to forget one thing. Its very hard to teach user a
gui, and ask him to switch to totally other one. You can ask IBM,
Microsoft, even Novell - about it. Its simply DO NOT WORK! - so the
Gnome & KDE project bringing some similarities to windows, BIG F*cking
deal! No-one is forcing you to install it!
If I'm going to move a user from Windows enviroment or I want to teach
him Linux - I WILL put him/her in front of KDE screen and not run-level
3 login prompt. And thats the main reason why we have KDE & Gnome -
primary target == newbies!
You might also check yourself. kISDN was never part of the official KDE
files. Redhat 6.2 got a small cute ISDN connection program (forgot its
name - sorry, but you'll need to install it manually from the RPMS
directory on the CDROM).
And regarding all the legal staff - I had my share of fights with Marc,
Ury, Mike & Asaf :))
Hetz
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