Hi ppl!
Omer Mussaev wrote:
>
> Moshe Zadka wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> >
> > > Quoth Moshe Zadka on Tue, Apr 18, 2000:
> > > > Well, the fact that Python comes with batteries included is not my fault.
> > >
> > > With proper batteries, I can even do it in C.
> >
> > Well, you choose a language, you choose libraries...
> >
> > > And I would still prefer Apache, written in C, with lots of lines
> > > of source code.
> >
> > For what? If I need 1 hit a minute site, configuring Apache can be a
> > bitch. Configuring SimpleHTTPServer (or CGIHTTPServer) takes al the 30
> > seconds of creating the directory and running the command line.
>
> And what if this hit is GET? On linux-sparc-2.9.1.tar.gz? What is the
> overhead?
> And what if you are DOS attack?
> And what if you had installed GTK_EarPiercingViaCovertChannelsInPCI66
> version 0.0.0.1-pre9, which screwed something up? or down?
> ..
> And what is heap size for Python gc?
> And....
> ...
>
> It is not the way to build software.
>
> >
>
> >
> > The guy seemed like he doesn't know a lot about configuring Apache, so I
> > gave him the shortest, most portable solution (the khttpd solution doesn't
> > work on kernels <2.2 AFAIK)
>
> For truth sake, <2.3
>
> Is it a flame that burns me, or what?
>
> What Boris needed was apache, cooked and prepackaged. and installed happily on
> his
> machine. Best way to have Apache working, is to install Debian and install
> apache deb.
> It wont take more than 10 minutes, and no knowledge of apache is needed - debian
> has
> a really good apache package. Mandrake, for example, uses PID file and kill
> command to
> stop/restart apache - a brain damage - there is apachectl for it. RH 6.1 is a
> really cool
> distro - they decided that kill and PID is a BSD way, so they have function
> "killproc" - and it does just that. Retrieves a PID and kills it.
>
> But not anyone wishes to install Debian, so _any_ apache is enough,
> as long as you take it prepackaged for you.
>
> Poor guy (and now he is really poor) has to install Python and libs just to
> run ws? RH installs python for you without asking, since its installer is
> written
> in Python, and no one cares to remove it afterwards for you. But Mandrake does
> not.
> Mandrake installs perl and gtk and gnome, just to make you happy. Who cares,
> it's only 100 Mbs which may be used in other way.
>
> Moshe: khttpd is not an option right now, since it appeared in devel kernel.
> But there are other ws's, like boa or zeus, which are complete packages, and
> not HTTP/0.9 (meaning you can never get more than one request served at time)
> compliant + CGI enabled STREAM sockets. You can like Python, or you can hate
> Python, and in any way, Python's web server is not a web server, but a way
> to IPC via HTTP.
>
> Boris: relax, web servers are not rocket science, at least until you are
> entering application servers and QoS issues. You did not intend to serve
> a million people a day, did'nt you?
Well, actually no but if it will be like that I think it will be better
because
I'll get a lot of money from banners and then I will be able to pay you
all
for the help.
About Debian I have some problems because I don't have one and I don't
know if
there are people in Haifa that have a copy. Anyone does?
--
Boltyansky Boris.
"Press any key to continue or any other key to abort" -- Computer using
Windows.
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