although I'm not sure I said part of the things I said were
misunderstood:)
am too tired to try to explain and I would accept your corrections:)

sweet night to you all:)

ll&p

Ely

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, guy keren wrote:

|  
|  On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
|  
|  > I'm almost sure and dont' kill me if I'm wrong that ssh works above the
|  > telnet protocol and not replacing it..
|  
|  ely, i don't know where you bring these odd claims from, but:
|  
|  1. ssh does not sit on top of telnet. it sits on top of tcp.
|  2. ftp also does not sit on top of telnet. it sits on top of tcp.
|  3. the same goes for http...
|  
|  you'd better sort out your confusion by reading a good book about the TCP
|  protocol family (internetworking with TCP/IP, by douglas commer, for
|  example).
|  
|  > sperate between dissing the telnet protocl the telnetd and the telnet
|  > client:)
|  
|  it is the telnet protocol itself that is insecure. some telnet
|  clients and servers did override this problem by moving the authentication
|  part into using a more descent method (e.g. kerberos). alas, you cannot
|  interoperate them with telnet clients/servers that use the normal
|  (RFC-based) telnet protocol.
|  
|  > maybe one day ssh would replace telnetd but meanwhile for comptibilty with
|  > the rest of the world telnted is still needed not mention that sniffing
|  > ssh isn't that impossible as you make it sound (altough I agree it is
|  > safter than telnet)
|  
|  what they were explaining is that when you control a complete network
|  (e.g. your HOME LAN, or when you're an administrator of a site), then you
|  can disable telnet/ftp and let all your users use ssh instead.
|  
|  guy
|  
|  "For world domination - press 1,
|   or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
|  
|  


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