> shaul wrote:
> > 
> > I want to set up a *dynamic* PPP connection over an Ethernet connection (at
> > least, that is what I think).
> > Can you tell me what are the available tools ?
> 
> Why would you want a dynamic ip?

Dynamic IP is much cheaper. Currently this is what I asked the ISP to provide 
me.

> 
> > Can I redirect a terminal to the Ethernet device ?
> 
> What do you mean by that?
> If you want a remote terminal, use telnet!
> (which usaly is already enabled in your inetd config file)
> 

Well, the ISP point of view is the following: 
He supplies the usual dial up connection, but it is done with a point to point 
line that uses frame relay to carry out the data. In particular, as in the 
usual dial up connections, he expects one to use PPP in order to establish the 
lower networks levels.
(Of course this is simplified but I only tried to get to my problem, which is 
on my side of the connection)

Can you use telnet without establishing the lower networks levels ? (I hope 
that I let you understand what I am thinking about in case my understating is 
wrong)

On the other hand, my point of view is more complicated:
Since this is a frame relay line (again, not a more conventional leased line 
in order to reduce its cost) I have to put an adapter between my PC and the 
line. The adapter that I currently got should be attached to an Ethernet card 
in my PC (The adapter has a built in Ethernet device). Yet it is my 
understanding that pppd can only run on a serial device of some sort, and not 
with an Ethernet device. There for, I need some tool which will let me 
establish a ppp connection through an Ethernet device.

BTW: I am aware to the fact that BEZEQ let me rent a monofrad which seems to 
be more suitable for this task.
However, I hoped to save me the monofrad renting fee because I was able to get 
a Frame Relay adapter with an Ethernet input. Currently, it seems a wrong 
calculation.

> > There does not seems to be
> > /dev/eth*.
> > 
> 
> Very good observastion shaul.
> If you actually read the net-3 howto, you would know that there are no
> devices for
> network adaptors in linux.
> 
> Try to type "man ifconfig" to know how to use your ethernet card.
> If you're really lazy and have redhat, you can use one of its config
> tools (try netconf).
> 

Suppose root wants to send some arbitrary data through an Ethernet device. 
Can't he do it ? Is /proc/net/raw usable for this purpose ?

man ifconfig mentions a pointtopoint option and it does seem relevant. Yet 
when I tried it there was no response, and I did not get the prompt back. Does 
anyone can explain this option ?

> Cheers,
> Yoni.
> 
> -- 
> 
> The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
> is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaner software...
> (I was pointed out that Microsoft hardware usualy works)
> 









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