For what its worth, I've been running Netscape 4.x on an Pentium 166 MMX
with 32MB of RAM and a 64MB swap partition without any problems in RedHat
5.1 up to RehHat 6. I even run StarOffice 5.1 on this machine, albeit a
little bit sluggish on start-up. SO runs well after it has loaded all its
modules.

It wasn't always like this, though. StarOffice thrashed my HD pretty badly
until I enlarged the swap partition from 32MB to 64MB. General performance
got much better after I got rid of KDE and many services that RedHat runs by
default (mine is a stand-alone machine). I also ditched Enlightenment and
use WindowMaker instead, combined with a "toned down" Gnome environment
(without GMC and it's stupid Windows-like icons, just a small Gnome panel
which I use only because I need the GKB applet).

So I would say that the problem of the original poster is not Netscape or
the size of his swap partition (even though it wouldn't hurt to make it a
little bigger). He should look rather into the setup of his Desktop
Environment and find ways to optimize it.

Cheers,
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----- Original Message -----
From: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Yaron Zabary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Thrashing and Crashing


>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Yaron Zabary wrote:
>
> > I would guess that your netscape is indeed running out of swap
>
> not necessarily. if it did, it'll most likely core dump in some manner (or
> the first application that tries to allocate memory and tries to access
> the not-really-allocated memory via the returned NULL pointer.
>
> the problem of thrashing in this manner has one solution (as far as i
> know): leave the keyboard and mouse and wait for 1-3 minutes. eventually
> your system will stop swapping (unless you have some background process
> that's keeping the system the busy constantly - in that case you're
> toast). when it finally calms down, try to close the annoying process
> without letting the mouse cross over any other window (otherwise, it wakes
> those apps up, and swapping begins again).
>
> options for the longer term: don't use netscape version 4+ on a system
> with 32MB - use netscape v3.X instead.
>
> buy more RAM.
>
> etc, etc, etc.
>
> as far as i know, linux does not alow you to limit the ammount of swapping
> a process causes. creating such a limit could solve these problems (with
> the price of having applications crashing all over around you). maybe
> you'd like to add such a feature into the kernel? :)
>
> guy
>
>
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