> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Les Mikesell <[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> On 12/10/10 8:32 AM, Vadym Chepkov wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Igor Chudov<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> This does not at all back up your claim that there is no documentation.
>>>>>> All this shows is that EPEL5 (what you tried it on) is different from
>>>>>> Fedora-13 (what the guide was written for).
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Who would use fedora for anything that needed a highly available server?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I would not, as a former Fedora user. Fedora likes to mess with configs in 
>>>> a
>>>> way that makes system updates unreliable.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> And you don't have to anymore.
>>> RHEL6 is out
>>>       
>> Still waiting for CentOS - and maybe even 6.1 for the usual round of release
>> issue fixes before I'm touching any of my running servers.  But, more to the
>> topic here, is there a guide that someone can follow to get something 
>> working on
>> a reliable system?
>>     
>
> There is plenty of very good guides and links to them were posted here
> several times.
>
> Guys, you know, all of that sounds like nonsense. Just consider these numbers:
>
> 1. Price for Oracle RAC in Enterprise Edition in $23000 per processor.
> 2. Price for Oracle classes for Oracle RAC (5 days) is $3000
>
> Prices for Veritas VCS clustering software not much cheaper.
> Prices for NetApp appliance are in the same range.
>
> Here you get an amazing product for free and then start whining that
> it takes a week to get it deployed, or start complaining that it's
> impossible to get something reliable out of it. It's a nonsense. There
> are thousands of installation of Heartbeat/Pacemaker around the world.
> So yes, it is possible to build a reliable system. And since when
> spending a week for building a complex clustered computing system is
> considered as "too long".
>
> But Ok, your time is precious and you can't waste a week. Then hire
> somebody who can do it for you. LinBit, Novell, RedHat all provide
> professional services and commercial support. Her me, if you don't
> like them :-) But yet again it won't be cheap.
>
> And last but not least. It's an Open Source  world. You don't like
> something - then fix it. You don't like documentation? Fine, learn the
> product and write your own set of documentation and share it with
> others. Open Source community will really appreciate that.
>
> But please, please stop whining and insulting people who puts their
> time to make something that is really good and that you can get for
> free.
>
> Please watch this if you have time and sorry for spam
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
>
>   
You hit the nail on the head with this video. This just made my day.
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