Hi,

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 02:01:26AM +0100, Andreas Mock wrote:
> Andrew Beekhof schrieb:
>> Not if the power loss includes power loss to the stonith device (which
>> as you said, is what happens in your case).
>> The only real solution is to add a stonith mechanism that doesn't have
>> this design problem (possibly in addition to the existing one).
>>
>> Unfortunately, anything else leaves you as vulnerable as if stonith
>> wasn't enabled in the first place.
>>   
> Hi Andrew,
>
> you must be more precise: "...as vulnerable to a total power failure of a 
> node as if stonith wasn't enabled in the first place."
> You get a reward of enabling this stonith device compared to have no 
> stonith at all, don't you? :-)

Well, perhaps...

> (e.g. software bugs, ressource overload, network failures of  
> heartbeat-link)
>
> This special scenario of power outage of one node is IMHO not very likely 
> in a productive HA environment.
> Why? Every node has two power supplies. Every power supply is connected to 
> an extra APS which is
> connected to an extra power line. Every power supply is monitored for 
> failure to be replaced in time.
> If you can't or don't want to afford this kind of redundancy you have to 
> live with a service outage in that
> special scenario.

Indeed. Though I often doubt if people go all the way. Or, more
precisely, people sometimes tend to think that having a cluster
relaxes hardware requirements.

> But to nail it down: Everything is better than mounting a regular 
> filesystem from more than one node!! :-)

True.

Thanks,

Dejan


> Best regards
> Andreas Mock
>
>
>
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