On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:51:38PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 04:40:34PM +0800, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:19:26 +0300
> > Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevche...@intel.com> escreveu:
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:17:12AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:49:29AM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:  
> > > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevche...@intel.com> 
> > > > > wrote:  
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:01:04AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> > > > > >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 09:17:51AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:  
> > > > > >> > Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevche...@intel.com> writes:  
> > > > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 12:30:00PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet 
> > > > > >> > > wrote:  
> > > > > >> > >> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+hua...@kernel.org> writes:
> > > > > >> > >>   
> > > > > >> > >> > This changeset contains the kernel-doc.py script to replace 
> > > > > >> > >> > the verable
> > > > > >> > >> > kernel-doc originally written in Perl. It replaces the 
> > > > > >> > >> > first version and the
> > > > > >> > >> > second series I sent on the top of it.  
> > > > > >> > >> 
> > > > > >> > >> OK, I've applied it, looked at the (minimal) changes in 
> > > > > >> > >> output, and
> > > > > >> > >> concluded that it's good - all this stuff is now in 
> > > > > >> > >> docs-next.  Many
> > > > > >> > >> thanks for doing this!
> > > > > >> > >> 
> > > > > >> > >> I'm going to hold off on other documentation patches for a 
> > > > > >> > >> day or two
> > > > > >> > >> just in case anything turns up.  But it looks awfully good.  
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > This started well, until it becomes a scripts/lib/kdoc.
> > > > > >> > > So, it makes the `make O=...` builds dirty *). Please make 
> > > > > >> > > sure this doesn't leave
> > > > > >> > > "disgusting turd" )as said by Linus) in the clean tree.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > *) it creates that __pycache__ disaster. And no, .gitignore IS 
> > > > > >> > > NOT a solution.  
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > If nothing else, "make cleandocs" should clean it up, certainly.
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > We can also tell CPython to not create that directory at all.  
> > > > > >> > I'll run
> > > > > >> > some tests to see what the effect is on the documentation build 
> > > > > >> > times;
> > > > > >> > I'm guessing it will not be huge...  
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> I do not build documentation at all, it's just a regular code 
> > > > > >> build that leaves
> > > > > >> tree dirty.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> $ python3 --version
> > > > > >> Python 3.13.2
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> It's standard Debian testing distribution, no customisation in the 
> > > > > >> code.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> To reproduce.
> > > > > >> 1) I have just done a new build to reduce the churn, so, running 
> > > > > >> make again does nothing;
> > > > > >> 2) The following snippet in shell shows the issue
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> $ git clean -xdf
> > > > > >> $ git status --ignored
> > > > > >> On branch ...
> > > > > >> nothing to commit, working tree clean
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> $ make LLVM=-19 O=.../out W=1 C=1 CF=-D__CHECK_ENDIAN__ -j64
> > > > > >> make[1]: Entering directory '...'
> > > > > >>   GEN     Makefile
> > > > > >>   DESCEND objtool
> > > > > >>   CALL    .../scripts/checksyscalls.sh
> > > > > >>   INSTALL libsubcmd_headers
> > > > > >> .pylintrc: warning: ignored by one of the .gitignore files
> > > > > >> Kernel: arch/x86/boot/bzImage is ready  (#23)
> > > > > >> make[1]: Leaving directory '...'
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> $ touch drivers/gpio/gpiolib-acpi.c
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> $ make LLVM=-19 O=.../out W=1 C=1 CF=-D__CHECK_ENDIAN__ -j64
> > > > > >> make[1]: Entering directory '...'
> > > > > >>   GEN     Makefile
> > > > > >>   DESCEND objtool
> > > > > >>   CALL    .../scripts/checksyscalls.sh
> > > > > >>   INSTALL libsubcmd_headers
> > > > > >> ...
> > > > > >>   OBJCOPY arch/x86/boot/setup.bin
> > > > > >>   BUILD   arch/x86/boot/bzImage
> > > > > >> Kernel: arch/x86/boot/bzImage is ready  (#24)
> > > > > >> make[1]: Leaving directory '...'
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> $ git status --ignored
> > > > > >> On branch ...
> > > > > >> Untracked files:
> > > > > >>   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
> > > > > >>    scripts/lib/kdoc/__pycache__/
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" 
> > > > > >> to track)  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW, I repeated this with removing the O=.../out folder 
> > > > > > completely, so it's
> > > > > > fully clean build. Still the same issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And it appears at the very beginning of the build. You don't need 
> > > > > > to wait to
> > > > > > have the kernel to be built actually.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > kernel-doc gets run on source files for W=1 builds. See 
> > > > > Makefile.build.  
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the clarification, so we know that it runs and we know that 
> > > > it has
> > > > an issue.  
> > > 
> > > Ideal solution what would I expect is that the cache folder should respect
> > > the given O=... argument, or disabled at all (but I don't think the latter
> > > is what we want as it may slow down the build).
> > 
> > From:
> >     
> > https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/b193fa996a746111252156f11fb14c12fd6267e6
> > and:
> >     https://peps.python.org/pep-3147/
> > 
> > It sounds that Python 3.8 and above have a way to specify the cache
> > location, via PYTHONPYCACHEPREFIX env var, and via "-X pycache_prefix=path".
> > 
> > As the current minimal Python version is 3.9, we can safely use it.
> > 
> > So, maybe this would work:
> > 
> >     make O="../out" PYTHONPYCACHEPREFIX="../out"
> > 
> > or a variant of it:
> > 
> >     PYTHONPYCACHEPREFIX="../out" make O="../out" 
> > 
> > If this works, we can adjust the building system to fill PYTHONPYCACHEPREFIX
> > env var when O= is used.
> 
> It works, the problem is that it should be automatically assigned to the
> respective folder, so when compiling kdoc, it should be actually
> 
> $O/scripts/lib/kdoc/__pycache__
> 
> and so on for _each_ of the python code.

So, the bottom line, can we just disable it for a quick fix and when a proper
solution comes, it will redo that?

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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