Needless to say I am not trying to discourage qualified commercial pilots

I would be curious what percentage of commercial pilots trained at hanscom
and what percentage of their students are going for a commercial license

And then there are airports in less heavily populated areas


I know someone who leases his private plane on an hourly short term basis
so he can get the depreciation

What I heard was that the people learning to fly were doing so because they
were buying a private plane for personal use.



On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 9:51 PM Jennifer Saffran <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You understand that private pilots turn into commercial pilots, right? In
> order to apply to fly commercial planes, one has to have the hours and the
> flight ratings, and those are acquired at the pilot’s expense. Getting to
> an IFR rating can cost the same as a 4 year college degree.
>
> Those are the same people who learn to fly helicopters, too. Spend a night
> watching the sky over the Longwood Medical Center area and note how many
> emergency helicopters come in.
>
> Think of the planes that put out the raging forest fires.
>
> Not everyone chooses to learn to fly via the Air Force.
>
> Yes, some of these hobbyists will never fly “life saving missions”, but
> without the commercial aviation pipeline, this country will be short of
> pilots. And for the near and distant future, our transportation and
> security depend on pilots.
>
> Jennifer Saffran
> Glider pilot license, expired
>
> On Aug 24, 2025, at 3:25 PM, Laura Glynn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The flight radar 24 app (free) shows you most every plane in the air and
> where it is flying and who owns it
>
> The private flights at hanscom fall into three buckets
>
> * True privately owned planes taking the billionaires to Martha’s
> Vineyard, Nantucket, the Hamptons, Maine or (during the week) business
> centers.  In the winter these planes fly instead to Florida, ski resorts
> and Mexico (yes all the way to Mexico from hanscom)
>
> * Disguised commercial flights that sell “memberships” instead of tickets
> and this gets them around the no commercial flights at hanscom rule.  Net
> jets and planes sense are two of these companies and they are listed as the
> owners of the planes so easy to spot.    These flights go to the same
> vacation spots as the true private planes but these poor millionaires have
> to share the plane with other millionaires and book ahead
>
> * people learning to fly private planes - because after all we really want
> more and more private planes.  These flights are really irritating.  They
> are horrible noise polluters and they go round and round in circles spewing
> toxic fumes.  I would love to shut down the training flights at hanscom
>
> Enjoy the app.  When a plane wakes you up open the app and see where it is
> going.  Grrrrr
>
> I am also in the category of “moderated” so let’s roll the dice and see if
> it gets through the filter!
>
> Laura Glynn
> Tower road
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:02 PM Susan Mohn via Lincoln <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think the majority are military aircraft. What I see, being near
>> the field, are private jets coming and going frequently.  There are a few
>> loud military flights, but they are few. I believe by far it’s the private
>> jet traffic!  The private jet activity really picks up on Fridays and
>> Sundays/Mondays. It’s growing increasingly worse and worse.  In all
>> honesty, I’ve heard probably at least 3 jets taking off during the timespan
>> of typing this text at 4:00 on Sunday.
>> Wooops! Make that 4 jets!!!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 22, 2025, at 2:12 AM, Tom Kennedy <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The increased military traffic is part of the Marines' 250th birthday
>> > celebration.
>> > It's been well publicized by most media, except interestingly not in the
>> > Globe. There have been numerous TV videos of planes landing and taking
>> off
>> > at Boston Common. It's scheduled to continue all week.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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