I agree, discussions here about anything political won't solve anything, rather create tension.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 9:28 AM Jonathan Sheffi <jshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > I disagree. Political event invites inherently contain political > statements (that's how we got into this mess to begin with!). Therefore > they need to go to the new political channel along with the discussion > around them. > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2025, 08:33 Paul Shorb <paul.sh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My votes: >> Some version of suggestion #1 could be OK; I defer to the judgment of >> the LT moderators. >> >> Suggestion #2 seems unnecessary. LT seems like a reasonable place to >> simply post notices of upcoming events that are aimed at Lincoln residents, >> even if they concern topics outside of Lincoln, and I'd rather not have to >> subscribe to and monitor a separate thing. However, if the LT moderators >> (or someone else) is willing to go to the trouble of setting up that >> separate thing and explaining and enforcing what goes in which channel, OK >> with me. >> >> - Paul Shorb >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 8:00 AM June L Matthews <matth...@mit.edu> wrote: >> >>> I support this proposal. >>> >>> >>> >>> June Matthews >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> *On Behalf Of *Jonathan >>> Sheffi >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:34 PM >>> *To:* Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Moving geopolitics off of Lincoln Talk – >>> permanently >>> >>> >>> >>> When discussions about Israel and the rights of Jewish people started, I >>> was personally quite reluctant to engage. I did not believe that politics >>> belonged on Lincoln Talk, especially political issues that happen outside >>> the borders of the town of Lincoln. I miss the emails about bake sales and >>> animal sightings and used couches. Heck, I even miss the HCA discussions. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would like us to bring this list back to its original purpose: to >>> serve the residents of *Lincoln*. Not Israel, Gaza, Syria, Iran, >>> Russia, Ukraine, China, or Taiwan. In my personal opinion, not US politics >>> either. I therefore would like to make a specific policy proposal to the >>> owners and moderators of Lincoln Talk. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. A permanent ban on *all* discussion of geopolitical issues. This >>> would apply equally to the rest of the world, and perhaps even the parts >>> of >>> the USA outside our 7,000 person town. >>> 2. This would include invitations to events in Lincoln if they focus >>> on matters outside of the town. Ergo, no invitations to organize for a >>> presidential candidate, no invitations to discuss the Middle East or >>> Ukraine or anywhere else. >>> >>> >>> >>> Implementation of this policy requires two things as far as I can tell: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. The consent of the moderators to enforce this ban uniformly >>> across all non-Lincoln political matters. >>> >>> >>> 2. Updates to the Lincoln Talk FAQ >>> >>> <https://5a55e4ca.streaklinks.com/CQnB7pxOjvIKmH9_lATsVewz/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lincolntalk.org%2Ffaq> >>> and Rules & Policies >>> >>> <https://5a55e4ca.streaklinks.com/CQnB7pxNDef5uqkdvQ809zEB/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lincolntalk.org%2Frules-and-policies>. >>> May I suggest the following amendments: >>> >>> >>> >>> *Is my message an attempt to draw on the resources of my community?** >>> In other words, if you live in Lincoln and you’re asking for help from or >>> providing information to your community, then your message is probably on >>> topic even if the focus isn't on Lincoln itself. For example, if you’re >>> inviting people to a national political event, asking your neighbors how >>> they’re handling some aspect of the state tax form, or looking for the best >>> route to Logan Airport, it's probably on topic even if the focus is not >>> Lincoln. * >>> >>> >>> >>> *Does my message avoid changing the subject?** When you reply to a >>> message and you change the focus substantially, you may be going off topic. >>> For example, if a list member posts a message inviting neighbors to a >>> national political event, and you reply with a message that focuses on >>> national politics instead of neighbors, you may not be staying on topic.* >>> >>> >>> >>> I recognize that for some people, there is a genuine desire for virtual >>> and in-person discussions about national and global politics. I suggest >>> that we start a second mailing list from scratch, and everyone who wants to >>> talk about politics opts into it. Call it lincoln-geopolitics perhaps. All >>> event invitations and discussions of non-Lincoln politics go there, with >>> the LT moderators redirecting as necessary. >>> >>> >>> >>> I realize this is a change, and not everyone may be comfortable with it, >>> but I believe that moving our geopolitical event invitations and >>> discussions to a new dedicated forum will help us restore the Lincoln Talk >>> we all love. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> [image: Image removed by sender.]ᐧ >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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