I would also suggest reviewing the old records of the town-the records for the Rt.2CAC. Agreements with Mass Highway were struck and recorded. The planning and design took 20 years.
> On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:45 PM, John F. Carr <voxsciuro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The people who host highway design review meetings sometimes make > reassuring statements about speed limits. Speed limits aren't their > job. The phases of planning, design, construction, and operations all > belong to different groups. Public hearings are design. Speed limits > are operations. The groups used to work on different floors and > hardly talk to each other. > > If anybody really cares I can get the Route 2 speed limit paperwork > out of the DOT. I have no doubt that a speed limit of at least 55 is > justified by engineering standards. The speed limit on that part of > Route 2 was 55 until the powers that be ordered it reduced in the > 1970s. Officially, there was no reason. But the traffic operations > people knew they had better not undo the change. Apparently the new > interchange and median barrier changed the political calculus. > > John Carr > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 5:28 PM scjc89 <scj...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> On the topic of speed limits. Was there an approval process for route 2 >> between Tracey's and Crosbys being increased to 55? >> That was always stated it would not happen during the planning. >> I emailed the state but no response >> Thanks >> Sharon >> >> >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "John F. Carr" <voxsciuro...@gmail.com> >> Date: 12/9/24 11:48 AM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Mark Holzwarth <m...@ecacbed.com> >> Cc: lincoln@lincolntalk.org >> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Who Changed the Speed Limit on RT 2A and Why? >> >> The 45 mph speed limit speed limit on part of Route 2A of Lincoln was >> changed to 40 by MassHighway in 1998. This was a political favor. I >> never bothered to ask for the engineering study and I don't know if >> the department pretended to do one. I verified that the road did not >> qualify for a 40 mph speed limit according to the official speed >> zoning procedure. >> >> The speed limit change didn't affect traffic speed. I'm sure the >> engineers who signed the paperwork knew it wouldn't. It is well known >> that you can't control traffic speed by changing numbers on signs. >> But orders are orders. >> >> John Carr >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 8:00 PM Mark Holzwarth <m...@ecacbed.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wondering who changed the speed limit on Route 2A from 45 mph to 40 mph? >>> >>> >>> >>> Town of Lincoln? >>> >>> Mass DOT? >>> >>> MMNP? >>> >>> >>> >>> Was there a traffic study? >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark Holzwarth >>> >>> Blackburnian Rd >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. Change your subscription settings at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln.
