Right - state law On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 9:25 AM aaron beck <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it’s allowed because people use bikes for drop off and pick up at > school as well as ride them to school and back home. It’s also the law they > can use the road. > > Aaron Q. Beck > > > > On Sep 3, 2023, at 8:54 AM, john gregg via Lincoln < > [email protected]> wrote: > > So I guess my question would be why is road traffic like bikes allowed > during school drop off and pick up times? Seems like an easy fix, if you > plan to use the roads on a bike plan to go around Bedford Road and when you > can utilize the paths to get from A to B. Placing blame on the car and not > having any accountability with the bike seems a bit irresponsible > considering the only person who has insurance given an accident is the > driver of an insured vehicle. > > Thanks, > John Gregg > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 2, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: > > You re correct regarding public safety-it involves response time. > As it is, Lincoln Road is a challenge for them-imagine an ambulance or > firetruck trying to navigate that road during rush and school > drop-offs...no shoulder for anyone to pull on to. > Add speed bumps/humps and it is really an issue. > When I was a Select, we calculated reposes times to North Lincoln., > They were appreciably increased with the addition of any roadway > intrusion-those heavy vehicles need to slow to a near stop to safely get > over one. > And then they have to regain speed. > > We had an instance where a child in N.Lincoln was saved from > choking-Public Safety arrived within seconds of the child dying. > If they would have had to slow for a bump/hump, it would have been a > different outcome. > > That certainly opened my eyes to what I had once seen as a logical > solution to some of our traffic challenges. > > Sara > > > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > On Sep 2, 2023, at 11:27 AM, iearlerice--- via Lincoln < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I remember hearing that speed bumps can be a problem for public safety > vehicles in emergencies. Does anyone know if that is correct? > > Also, I thought that bicyclists are supposed to follow the same rules as > cars. Having witnessed many such incidents as Lisa described happen in > front of police, I have never seen a bicyclist cited. When I worked and > drove in Boston, it was quite nerve-wracking when they wove through traffic. > > Irene Earle-Rice > South Great Rd. > > On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 09:37:43 AM EDT, gail o'keefe < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi John and all, > > I'm curious why your list of ideas didn't include increased enforcement on > our road, or speed bumps? It wouldn't take much to reinstate the reputation > of Lincoln as being strict on speed. Bakers Bridge Road is another to add > to the above list of Sandy Pond, Weston Road, Tower Rd and Lincoln Rd. > > An article in the Globe just highlighted the extensive use of speed bumps > in Somerville. Towns are catching on that the car culture has run its > course. > Gail > > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:40 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Here's a handful of ideas: > > Come to the next BPAC meeting > <https://lincolntown.org/1083/Bicycle-Pedestrian-Advisory-Committee> on > September 28 at 7:30pm on Zoom. > > Speak to your friends and neighbors about the need to slow down and focus > only on driving when behind the wheel. > > Encourage your local and state representatives to prioritize public and > alternative forms of transportation. > > Volunteer as a crossing guard during Walk, Bike, Roll to School Week in > the Spring. > > Walk back and forth along Lincoln Road between Town Hall and the 5 way > between 7:45-8am to observe how many people are on their phones behind the > wheel. > > Attend an RTC meeting > <https://www.lincolntown.org/152/Roadway-Traffic-Committee> and voice > your support for infrastructure improvements that lower speeds and > prioritize walkers and cyclists. > > Try to eliminate 1 vehicle trip per week and walk or ride instead. > > Thanks, > > John > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:21 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is terrible. > It should NOT be happening…but, I for one will do whatever I can to > protect myself, including wearing that ugly vest. > At this time, that is all I can do. > We can come together, as a region, and discuss how we might be proactive, > as communities. > How can we turn outrage from finger-wagging and furor into practical > constructive actions? > > > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > On Aug 31, 2023, at 2:12 PM, John Mendelson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > People, a SCHOOL BUS hit a cyclist in broad daylight. This is not about > what anyone should be wearing but rather about the fact that driving > entitlement is reaching epidemic proportions here in Lincoln and all across > the country. > > Much like gun-violence, there is plenty of outrage and lots of thoughts > and prayers and high-vis clothing suggestions but until we are willing to > confront the fact that traffic safety is a uniquely American problem and a > result of high vehicle speeds, larger cars, and road structure > deficiencies, nothing will change. > > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-11-03/why-us-traffic-safety-fell-so-far-behind-other-countries > > The US underperformance in road safety is especially dramatic: 11.4 > Americans per 100,000 > <https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/2020-traffic-crash-data-fatalities> died > in crashes in 2020, a number that dwarfs countries including Spain (2.9 > <https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/spain-road-safety.pdf>), > Israel (3.3 > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/virus-lockdowns-help-cut-israels-2020-traffic-deaths-by-15/>) > and New Zealand (6.3 > <https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/spain-road-safety.pdf>). > And unlike most developed nations, US roadways have grown more deadly > during the last two decades (including during the pandemic > <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/u-s-road-deaths-rise-at-record-pace-as-risky-driving-persists>), > especially for those outside of cars. Last year saw the most pedestrians > killed in the US in 40 years > <https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-Report22#:~:text=WASHINGTON%2C%20D.C.%20%E2%80%93%20Drivers%20struck%20and,Highway%20Safety%20Association%20(GHSA).>, > and deaths among those biking rose 44% > <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/u-s-road-deaths-rise-at-record-pace-as-risky-driving-persists> > from > 2010 to 2020. > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:01 PM Laura Koller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I’m also a long time road cyclist, and I feel much more visible since I’ve > added front (white) and rear (red) blinkers to my bike. Passing cars seem > to give me much wider berth. It’s an extra step but seems very worthwhile. > I also wear a day-glo green helmet. Visibility really does make a > difference, imo. > > Laura > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM V Saleme <[email protected]> wrote: > > As a cyclist who resides in this town and accrues on average 250 miles a > week between trails and the road, I believe it’s important to devise a way > of getting out of this echo chamber and speak to the broader group of > people who, let’s face it, use this town as a cut through. They are the > problem, not the local residents. > > If I had to hazard to guess, they’re (non Lincoln residents) not on > Lincoln Talk and as they execute twice the speed limit minimally, on Tower > Rd., Deerhaven Rd., Sandy Pond Road, Lincoln Road, Bedford Road (where > there’s an actual sign that states “cyclists may use entire lane” if you > can believe it) thus head nodding amongst ourselves is not going to be > effective. > > Vic > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:41 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > And I would strongly urge drivers to slow down, obey the law, > <https://www.mass.gov/info-details/mass-general-laws-c90-ss-14> and pay > attention to what is in front of them at all times when behind the wheel of > a large, powerful object capable of inflicting terrible injuries to > walkers, cyclists, and other drivers. > > There is no clear consensus that high-visibility clothing makes a > difference for pedestrian nor cyclist safety so let's please avoid any > potential victim-blaming. > > See: > > > https://www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2023/08/21-03_ca_hi-vis_brf_1.pdf > (includes multiple peer reviewed studies) > > and > > > https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/hi-viz-clothing-cyclists/ > > Thanks! > > John > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:21 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would strongly urge all walkers and bikers to wear some sort of neon/ > reflective safety vest. > They are lightweight and cheap and they really help drivers see us. > > Dark clothing, esp at dusk or in mottled shade, makes us disappear. > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Lynne Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fascinating article! As a helmet and goggle wearing cyclist, I’m now going > to be extra careful since some drivers might not recognize me as human! > > Lynne Smith > 5 Tabor Hill Road > Lincoln, MA 01773 > 781-258-1175 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31 Aug 2023, at 11:24 a.m., Ginger Reiner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Julianne, > > That was me. I actually was hit by the school van in the interaction > although I stayed upright and am not hurt. Thanks for reaching out and I’d > love a witness statement. > > To the rest of LincolnTalk, I write this as a reply-all because people on > bikes are sometimes viewed as “less human” or seen as being “not from > Lincoln” (which shouldn’t matter), and I hope that attaching my name to > Julianne’s story might help to counteract both of those impressions. > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369847823001018 > > Ginger > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 8:59 AM jsug--- via Lincoln < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi There, > > If you are the cyclist who was nearly hit by the school van on Lincoln > Road this morning just before 8 am, and you were hoping to report this, I > wanted to let you know I would be happy to provide witness statement if > needed. > > Best, > Julianne > [email protected] > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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