On 6 October 2011 16:41, Tom Gall <tom.g...@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Christian Robottom Reis <k...@linaro.org> 
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:44:01AM +0300, Fathi Boudra wrote:
>>> On 6 October 2011 00:43, Mans Rullgard <mans.rullg...@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> > On 5 October 2011 18:35, Christian Robottom Reis <k...@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 08:09:03PM +0300, Fathi Boudra wrote:
>>> >>> Debian/Ubuntu P are going to move to libjpeg8 by default making
>>> >>> current package obsolete in the future.
>>> >>
>>> >> Note that when we asked Darrell about this he questioned the performance
>>> >> benefits of version 8. Mans probably knows more.
>>> >
>>> > There is no benefit to v8.  v7 added support for the rarely/never used
>>> > arithmetic coding option, left out of earlier versions due to patent
>>> > issues.  Since nobody uses this mode, supporting it is irrelevant.
>>> > v8 only adds some experimental, non-standard coding options even less
>>> > relevant to any real-world uses.  What is relevant is, however, that
>>> > v8 is significantly slower than v6 in the default configuration.  I
>>> > don't remember if this slowdown was present already in v7.
>>>
>>> According to Bill Allombert, v8 support more image format and provide
>>> a higher image quality.
>>
>> I really question this statement based on what Mans and Darrell have
>> both said (a number of times now). Where is the hard data that shows
>> this is true?
>
> Sounds like there needs to be a discussion with Bill. I would be
> interested how he is measuring image "quality.

IIRC v7 or v8 made some changes to the quantisation, which could in
theory improve quality at a set target size.  I haven't done any
tests myself so I can't say if it works as intended.  Also, what
improves one image might degrade another.  On top of that, image
quality is very subjective and hard to measure.  A change improving
a metric like PSNR can very well decrease subjective visual quality.

-- 
Mans Rullgard / mru

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