On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Wookey <woo...@wookware.org> wrote: > >> In my experience anyone distributing binaries actually picks a small >> set of distros and builds for those explicitly, rather than relying >> on the LSB. Does that mean that it's not actually useful in the real >> world? I guess in a sense this posting is to the wrong lists; we're >> all free software people here who have little use for the LSB. Where >> do the proprietary software distributors hang out :-)
They are starting to hang out in all the familiar Free Software places. :-) > sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the > commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they > all do "custom builds" of complete software stacks, it could be said > that *if* the free software community just dropped ready-to-go LSB > standards in front of their noses, they'd quite likely use it. Circumspect and balanced as always Mr. Leighton. :) I've been to the "commercial world" on a temporary visa and they do in fact care about things like standards. In fact I would go so far as to say that this LSB proposal for ARM would significantly improve life for consortia like GENIVI which has members from the ARM and Intel camp. > you have to remember that the majority of these companies could not > put two lines of code together to save their lives. they literally > have to be spoon-fed (in some cases even to the point of being told > where to put the screws, let alone the software). they are usually > spoon-fed by the CPU manufacturer [and in the case of MStar Semi, they > won't even let *you* violate the GPL, they do it entirely for you]. > > so in that regard, i think it's more a case of "if the free software > community provides LSB across ARM, it'll get used". I agree. > so in _that_ regard, the question becomes: "are the efforts of the > free software community better off being spent elsewhere"? and "what > benefit is there *TO THE FREE SOFTWARE COMMUNITY* of doing LSB for > ARM"? forget the proprietary junkies, they'll suck anything from us > that moves and not give a dime in return. In my experience there are dimes to be had, you just have to ask nicely. Regards, Jeremiah _______________________________________________ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev
