On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:56:12AM +0000, David Gilbert wrote:

> > 1) Is there agreement that for all the kernels we supply that we
> > should change the policy for kernel configs to not default to
> > everything on?
> > (Maybe we should be using the upstream config with minimal modifications?)

> > Pro: everyone benefits from the diet
> > Con: Our kernel would be build slightly different than ubuntu's
> > others:

> Can't we keep stuff configured as modules but move some of the modules out 
> into
> other binary packages?  That way everyone benefits from the diet, but
> it wouldn't stop anyone installing it if they had weird needs.
> I also don't think it would be a bad idea to propose making the same
> change to the
> Ubuntu kernels if you want to keep the differences down.
> I'd support turning the really obscure stuff off though,

That involves a non-trivial amount of build engineering that isn't going to
get done this cycle (and definitely not in the Ubuntu kernels).  If we want
to exclude a module completely, we can turn it off in the config; but if we
want to build it and simply package it separately, that's a whole new build
system layer that we have to deal with.  It could probably reuse some of
kernel-wedge's existing handling of module dependencies and so forth; but
even so it's not achievable for this cycle.

> > 2) Linaro-media-create shouldn't install linux-firmware_1.47_all.deb ?
> > Do we have any any hardware that needs it?  If so could there be a
> > --nano option to not install it?

> Aren't there a few boards with PCI which could take a whole variety
> of boards some of which will need firmware?  It's surprising just how
> many things  need it, and if it was your ethernet adapter it's really
> nasty to fix.  But I think I agree in generally it could be off by default.

My thought here was USB rather than PCI.  I think many of the boards have
USB interfaces, and I think there's a non-zero number of USB devices that
require externally-loaded firmware.

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