+++ Amit Mahajan [2010-12-17 17:19 +0530]:
> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:30 +0000, Andrew Stubbs wrote:
> > > I checked the wiki and other links but could not find a related
> > > document.

You are right that this process is not properly documented. That's
largely because because it's either very slow (emulated) or very
difficult (cross). If you do have some fast-enough hardware of the
right type then it's fairly tractable, although toolchain-defaulting
is still an awkward process requiring a flavoured rebuild of the
toolchain. We do at least have that in place now though.

I'll this to mey list of 'missing wiki pages'. We should at least
document the flavoured-native-rebuild process as that is in place,
even if it doesn;t help in your case.

> Thanks for your help. The procedure you mentioned looks good. But I have
> 2 points here:
> 1. Right now I do not have access to board. I think probably I can use
> QEMU for simulating my hardware.
> 
> 2. Compiling each package individually will be a long process. I wonder
> if Ubuntu has something like ALIP (ARM linux internet platform), which
> can be readily used with scratchbox.

We are working on this. Debian/Ubuntu was never designed for
cross-building so a fair amount of work is needed to make this an
easy, slick process.

What you probably actually want is for someone else to have already
built a no-VFP flavour of the distro that you could just use.
Presumably that would be fine? (Debian's existing armel port might be
of use, unless you also need everything to be built for v7, or to be
actually using the ubuntu sources for some reason?)

My belief is that in practice most people would be satisfied if a
small number of flavours (v5, v6, v7 noVFP) were pre-built. Shout if
that's not true for you.

Nevertheless there are enough awkward cases that making it easy to
bootstrap a new flavour without relevant hardware is an important goal
(a-la ALIP/AEL). For this to work we need the main core of 200-odd
packages to cross-build properly, for circular build-dependencies to
be breakable, and for cross-build tools to be able to reliably do the
right thing with dependencies. About half of those 200 packages do now
cross (sometimes with not-yet-merged patches), circular
build-dependencies are being removed (with staged builds), and the
cross-building tools and meta-data are being improved so that the
process is automable and reliable. That last process depends on
multiarch to be fully implemented in order to have cross-dependencies
correctly described in package metadata.

For this stuff to stay working we also need continuous cross-build
testing, otherwise it will bitrot. 

I expect this to be a working, demonstrable, process within the next
couple of months, but from a patched set of sources because various
aspects can't go in the main repo yet.

I am trying to keep this page https://wiki.linaro.org/CrossBuilding as
a good overview. That has a currently more-or-less empty 'Rebuilding
everything for a new ABI/flavour section. I'll fill that out now.

Wookey
-- 
Principal hats:  Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM
http://wookware.org/

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