Please take a look at Issue 3229: Patch: Make \relative { ... } interpret the first pitch as an absolute one
<URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3229> It's clear that this change will require quite a bit more work if it gets accepted, and it is important that we get user feedback before investing significant more work here. The idea is that \relative { ... } (namely \relative used without an explicit reference pitch) uses the first note inside as the reference pitch. That is, if the first note happens to be written as fis'' it will sound as fis'' (absolute pitch). Using \relative without a reference pitch has previously been discouraged. Its traditional meaning is to have c' used as default reference pitch, leading to the result \relative { f' } -> f' \relative { g' } -> g which is not necessarily helpful. One rationale is to stop the "distribution" of the information for the first pitch to potentially quite separate places, like being able to write \new Staff \relative { \key aes \major << % Voice one { c''2 aes4. bes8 } ... instead of the previous \new Staff \relative c'' { \key aes \major << % Voice one { c2 aes4. bes8 } ... Now the old behavior and recommended usage is _really_ old. Few people use \relative without a reference pitch nowadays, so the amount of code in need of changing is rather small. However, changing the _recommended_ way of doing things requires a lot of changes in LilyPond documentation (many of which can be done automatically as the current patch shows, but of course quite a few also requiring more manual work), and it will become visible quite thoroughly. So the question is how LilyPond users feel about this, both seasoned users as well as newer ones: would this change make learning LilyPond easier? Would it feel more convenient/logical in the long run? The actual change in semantics are just a few lines in ly/music-functions-init.ly. But doing just that change alone would be pointless if it's not enough of an improvement to actually change the documentation extensively and recommend this use. How do people feel about this? -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user