And as a heeltap to this, it's always worth taking a structured approach to 
getting unusual score layouts to work (e.g., those with odd staff spacing, or 
with furniture [like time sigs] removed).  Start with a minimal amount of 
music, like \repeat unfold 100 { c }.  Then get the score laid out as you want 
it.  If you fail in this, posting a minimal example on the group will likely 
get a more positive response.  Then add the more complex music and voila - 
complete.

Posting "I tried something and it didn't work" is always likely to be difficult 
to debug.

--
Phil Holmes


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jay Hamilton 
  To: Thomas Morley 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:26 AM
  Subject: Re: last time around for remove bar numbers won't upgrade.


  Wow, I can even understand this,,,,, now.

  Thanks
  Jay


  On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Thomas Morley 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Jay,

    2012/10/26 Jay Hamilton <[email protected]>:

    > David-
    > When I tried to use the solutions suggested nothing happened, no log 
report
    > nada.  That's what I mean by ground to a halt.  Therefore I can't tell you
    > what happened because I have no information.  As for what I meant by I
    > expected putting \remove "Bar_number_engraver" with \remove "Bar_engraver"
    > etc I mean that I put it with them and nothing changed.
    > I just today found a page 368(?) which shows possibly what Toine did mean
    > and to me that does not look at all like putting it with the other \remove
    > instructions.  Just to make sure that I'm not totally making a fool of
    > myself (I've already done enough damage I suspect with this whole morass)


    Can't see any damage.


    > I
    > looked over the relevant parts of 2.16 manual and I'm not doing anything 
in
    > this piece that looks totally wrong.--- to me.
    >
    > \version "2.14.1"
    > \header {
    > title = "persian music"
    > subtitle = "Dastgah-e Homayun #41"
    > composer = "trad"
    > copyright = \markup { \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 0.5)
    > \center-column
    > { "CC lic 2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2012"
    > "see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/";
    > } }
    > }
    > #(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
    > #(set-default-paper-size "letter" 'landscape)
    > #(set-global-staff-size 30)
    > \paper
    > {
    > indent = 30
    > short-indent = 15
    > right-margin = 30
    > top-margin = 15
    > bottom-margin = 15
    > }
    >
    > melody = \relative c
    > {
    > \clef bass
    > \key c \major
    > \time 14/8
    > \override Staff.TimeSignature #' style = #' ()
    > \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
    > #(set-accidental-style 'forget)
    > \partial 16
    > des'16 c8 [des] c [des] c [des] c des2 r8
    > des16. (c32) des16 c \break
    > \time 10/8
    > b16 [c des] c32 [des c des] c [des c des]
    > b [c b c b c b c] b16 c2 \break
    > \time 33/16
    > \autoBeamOff
    > c16 [b aes g] aes8 [g] aes [g] aes [g] aes [aes] g4 r g16 [aes b c] des
    > \break
    > \time 35/16
    > c4 (b16) des c4 (b16) c [des] c [des8 (e16)] des8. ([c16])
    > c8.([b16]) c2 r8 \break
    > \time 22/8
    > c16 [des e] e2 c8 [des e] c [des e] c [des e]
    > des16 [e des] e8.-> ([f16]) e8.-> ([f16])
    > e8.-> (f16) \break
    > \time 33/16
    > e16 [des c] des8.-> ([e16]) des8.-> ([e16]) des8.-> ([e16])
    > des16 [c des] e8.-> ([f16]) e8.-> ([f16]) e8.-> ([f16])
    > e16 [des e] \break
    > \time 17/8
    > f8.-> ([g16]) f8.-> ([g16]) f8.-> ([g16]) f16 [e des]
    > e8.-> ([f16]) e8.-> ([f16]) e8.-> (f16)
    > e16 [des c] des8.-> ([e16]) \break
    > \time 17/8
    > des8.-> ([e16]) des8.-> ([e16]) des[c b c] b2 des16 c2
    > e16 [des des c c] \break
    > \time 15/8
    > des16 [c c b] b4. des c4 (des16) b c2
    > \bar "|."
    > }
    >
    > \score {
    > \new Staff \melody }
    > \layout {
    > \context {
    > \Staff
    > \remove "Time_signature_engraver"
    > \remove "Bar_engraver"
    >  \remove "Bar_number_engraver"
    > }
    > }
    > \midi { }
    >  }
    >
    > So have at it.
    > It doesn't take the bar numbers off on my side of the internet.


    most engraver are "living" in a certain context (Voice, Staff, Score,
    etc). If you want to remove one, you have to adress the correct
    context.

    For the Bar_engraver see IR 2.2.7
    
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/internals-big-page#bar_005fengraver
    scroll down to the end of that section and you could read:
    Bar_engraver is part of the following context(s): DrumStaff, Dynamics,
    GregorianTranscriptionStaff, KievanStaff, MensuralStaff,
    PetrucciStaff, RhythmicStaff, Staff, TabStaff and VaticanaStaff.

    I.e. _no_ Score, but Staff.

    For the Bar_number_engraver see IR 2.2.8
    
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/internals-big-page#bar_005fnumber_005fengraver
    scroll down to the end of that section and you could read:
    Bar_number_engraver is part of the following context(s): Score.

    I.e. Score

    To be complete:
    IR 2.2.122 Time_signature_engraver
    
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/internals-big-page#time_005fsignature_005fengraver
    scroll down to the end of that section and you could read:
    ime_signature_engraver is part of the following context(s): DrumStaff,
    GregorianTranscriptionStaff, MensuralStaff, RhythmicStaff, Staff and
    TabStaff.

    I.e. _no_ Score, but Staff.

    So your \score should be:


    \score {
    \new Staff \melody
    \layout {
            \context {
                    \Staff
                    \remove "Time_signature_engraver"
                    \remove "Bar_engraver"
            }

            \context {
                    \Score
                    \remove "Bar_number_engraver"
            }
    }
    \midi { }

    }


    >
    > Thanks to everyone sorry to get you all so sidetracked.
    > Jay


    Well, even if I don't agree with you in several points, I want say,
    that your thoughts as a longterm LilyPond-user are important.
    Feedback _is_ usefull in any case and too rarely given.

    Best,
      Harm




  -- 
  Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694



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