Gentlemen,
I enjoyed reading your exchange. I share your gratitude for the LilyPond
community which is why I decided to join the Bug Squad on a trial basis
several months ago, and, when I am able, to contribute financially to one
of the developers. Part of my frustration with Finale over many years was
the feeling of being lost in the dark with no one to help when something
went wrong, coupled with the fact that every upgrade rendered my files
useless to anyone with an older version of the program. Also, on a personal
note, congratulations to you and your families for the baptisms. Tomorrow I
celebrate the completion of another year of service in one of my church's
music ensembles with my daughter (she leads the group) and *my* year-old
grand-daughter! LilyPond has helped the group a lot!
Mark


On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Christ van Willegen
<cvwille...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Philip Thomas
> <philip.tho...@bluewin.ch> wrote:
> > Dear Christ,
>
> > I just opened your email and have saved the attachment. I will find out
> in
> > the coming hours whether it does indeed help in dealing with the problems
> > that I'm encountering.
> Ok, good luck!
>
> > But I wanted to say, now, how much I appreciate your
> > digging it out. I guess you must be the user forum administrator or
> > something like that, but even with good record keeping it must have taken
> > quite some effort on your part to find something submitted 6 years ago.
> No problem at all! Since you quoted part of the original mail, I could
> type that into GMail's search box, and it came up with the original
> mail instantly ;-)
>
> And, I'm just a regular user, not an administrator _at all_.
>
> > I am a comparative beginner, and I have been amazed at how ready the
> > LilyPond community is to answer questions, even when asking them displays
> > ignorance about the documentation.
>
> That's true, and kudos to all for:
> - Making LilyPond
> - Making LilyPond possible
> - Making LilyPond progress
> - Making docs (as a programmer, who hates making docs, I know how hard
> it is to describe anything at all, esp. if it needs to be read by
> humans ;-) )
> - Replying on this nice mailing list
> - Etc
> - Etc
>
> > In fact I do try to help myself as much
> > as I can by researching the documentation and the forum, but there is a
> > learning curve that one needs to persist in climbing, and I suspect most
> > people (particularly non-programmer types) need some help from others in
> > order to succeed.
>
> Yes, you need to
> - learn it, and
> - keep up with it
>
> I tend to be such a casual user (Oh, a song we're singing in the choir
> has been hand-written 20+ years ago, has been copied 30-ish times and
> can now hardly be read. Let me-re-engrave that...) this I almost
> always need to re-learn Lily to get it right :-( Well, I guess I need
> to make some base files to get started, then!
>
> > Both you and, of course, Markus Schneider with his
> > original post (even though I don't know whether he is still an active
> user),
> > are generous sources of such help to me.
>
> No problem!
>
> > Have a great weekend.
>
> You too!
>
> > I'll be spending a large part of my weekend polishing
> > up a special "edition" of a piece for the choir to sing at my baby
> > grandson's baptism in a few weeks' time.
>
> At my own (girl's) baptism, me, my wife and 2 good friends sang a song
> as well. It gives such a nice personal touch to the baptism!
>
> Congrats on your baby grandson!
>
> > I hope the attachment you sent will
> > help me to sort out (most particularly) an ugly near-collision between
> volta
> > brackets and the key signature, but even if it doesn't work, I already
> feel
> > mightily heartened by your kindness. Thank you so much.
>
> Good luck, hope it helps! If not, perhaps other people on the list can
> look it over sometimes?
>
> Christ van Willegen
>
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