On Sep 2, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Patrick Horgan wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:
I am a guitarist.
If all he wants is a chord chart, some paper and a pencil would be
a better approach. Or even a word processor two write out the
chords like Ralph Patt did with the Vanilla Book.
http://www.ralphpatt.com/VBook.html
Christian's trying to do something LilyPond is not designed to do
when what he really needs is a lead sheet, if he wants to use
LilyPond without a lot of kerfuffling around. I've sent him
information about this back-channel.
I agree it would be silly to use lilypond just to generate
something like:
|| C7/ / / | C / / / | C / / / | C / / / |
| F / / / | F / / / | C / / / | C / / / |
| G7 / / / | F / / / C / / / | C / / / ||
But what if it was only one of the outputs from the music, which
also generated tab and sheet music, and midi? While you're already
using the data to generate the other useful forms, what you be
wrong with using it to generate charts, which are a very commonly
used thing in the jazz world?
If there is a way to create a standard score for a jazz/rock/pop tune
and from that to generate different outputs (lead sheet, tab, chord
chart with lyrics, etc.), that's fine. I don't know any way to do
the last one. I don't use tab- sheet music is easier to read by far-
so I've never done anything with that in LilyPond, although I know
the facility is there.
I play jazz/blues/some rock on guitar and use LilyPond to create lead
sheets (a.k.a. "charts"). I've never turned up to a jazz session or
a gig and been presented with just a chord chart. I am always given
a lead sheet with the melody on the staff and the chords above (or
sometimes written over the bass staff instead which is hard to read,
usually in vocal books) and often with lyrics below the staff. The
only place I have seen jazz chord charts as such is on Ralph Patt's
Web site. Those are intended for reference to correct the Real Books
(which frequently have erroneous changes) and not to be played from.
My point was that LilyPond expects there to be notes on a staff in
the input. If you don't put them in, then you're going to have
trouble getting LilyPond to do much of anything. It is a *music
engraving* application and by definition that is staves with notes
(at least in Western music). From Christian's questions and
comments, it seemed to me that he did not understand the intended use
of LilyPond and is trying to get it to do something that (1) it is
not designed to do and (2) could be much more easily done with pencil
and paper or a word processor. I certainly could be misunderstanding
his intent.
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