Regarding those questions I didn't know how to word in an understandable way; my reasons for just simply letting them sit unasked is that in my experience, it means I've missed something along the way to the problem.
So just hanging tough and letting the problem sit while I go on with soe other portion of my project usually results in either finding the answer to my problem along the way as I proceed, or finding a way to ask the question. There are the times when just going back and making sure that every single render error I get is solved no matter how small, ends up making the original problem go away. At a time like this, I've very glad I didn't rush to the list and try to ask that question. It turns out that no matter how small or insignificant you think the error is, it has repercussions down the road for something else. So rather than speaking or asking in haste, I choose to keep working ahead by going back and making sure that all the little problems I think are of insignificant are taken care of. Regarding jazz chords, I can only speak from what I see on this list. Others have greater insight into the whole Lilypond development process, so I am not surprised that it was far more complex than what I saw here. I knew these were more complex problems than a simple lead sheet since I've talked with guitar players and compared the exact notes they play with the ones I know to be associated with any one chord. I learned a whole lot from that conversation, probably more than the guitar player thought that I learned. Again, it was a matter of perspective; how things look from where you are standing at the moment. As it happened, the right people spoke up at the right time. They said things in a concise way where I would have attempted (and probably failed) to say the same thing in a most awkward and round about way. There is a great deal of expertise in this group, it doesn't all come from progammers, but from everyone who uses Lilypond, it comes from everyone who uses Lillypond. Also, remember that my time zone is GMT -8, so I am one of the last people on this list to see anything posted. That affects how I see things or how I am seen to respond to things. Scheme: I know beyond a doubt that scheme is important. Understanding it can make your work much easier and a lack of understanding can make life with Lilypond a nightmare. I will eventually understand what I need to know about scheme, it just will not be this very moment If I had to say one thing that is wrong with documentation is that the people doing the documentation assume to much about the state of the reader's knowledge. What may seem obvious to you, may not be to the person reading your documentation. Unix/Linux man files are filled with some of the most information recorded anywhere. However, their terse style makes them difficult for many new users to understand. Lilypond's documentation used to be very similar in style. This is no longer the case, it has come a long way from that terse man file style to where it is now. So kudos to those who have contributed, your work is most appreciated. Also, to those who have contributed examples to the unofficial snippets repository, your contributions are high on my list of valuable contributions to Lilypond documentation. Many times I have found answers to my questions in the snippets respository when I had about given up. For me, a picture is worth a several million words. To sum up, thanks to everyone who has contributed even in a small way to Lilypond. Lilypond is as impoirtant to me as Open Office and Firefox combined. This is not hyperboly, I'd be lost without it. cheers, davidf _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user