This is a good suggestion, but be sure that what you say is "fingering
orientation" needs a chord construct, not just "fingering." One can
also see examples of successful fingering orientations with single notes
by clicking on the inspirational header. I definitely used some in
that. I realize it should be *more* obvious, but at least there's some
help there ;-) I definitely understand the problem since I had exactly
the same problem when I was revising this section of the docs and I
couldn't figure out why the orientations didn't take. My own notes make
the same suggestion as Nick, but since the "fingering" part of the
manual was somewhere else," I wasn't able to add this warning, and I
don't remember making any examples using orientations in the fretted
string section (did I?!). We'll get it cleared up :)
Jon
Nick Payne wrote:
Trevor
I think the problem is that all the snippets in s.2.4.1 of the manual
showing placing of fingering use actual chords as illustrations, and so it
is not made clear that a single note also requires the chord construct to
enable placing of the fingering. The same problem exists in the section
dealing with fingering at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Common-notation-fo
r-fretted-strings#Common-notation-for-fretted-strings - the snippets showing
placement of fingering use actual chords. Section 2.4.1 of the manual has a
highlighted pullout indicating that the chordal construction is needed for
string numbering: "Note: String numbers must be defined inside a chord
construct even if there is only a single note". I suggest that the section
on fingering instructions has a similar pullout indicating that the same
construction is needed for placing the fingering on single notes, and an
example of such.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2008 19:07
To: Nick Payne; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving guitar fingering orientations
Nick
d_3 puts fingering below the staff, d^3 above the staff and d-3 leaves
LilyPond to choose.
The section in the manual which you mention says "Fingering
instructions may
be manually placed above or below the staff, see Direction and
placement"
and that section tells you how.
The \fingeringOrientations command is specifically for chords, that's
why it
only works for them. This is perhaps not made crystal clear in the
manual,
although the heading of the snippet which describes the command is
"Controlling the placement of chord fingerings".
Now you know, could you suggest how the manual wording might be changed
to
prevent others having the same difficulty?
Trevor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: Moving guitar fingering orientations
Thanks, that fixes it. But according to the documentation, the single
note
chordal construction is only needed for string indications, not for
fingering
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-
the-staff#
Fingering-instructions). So it looks like you can show fingering
without
making every fingered note a chord, but if you want the fingering to
display
anywhere except the default location, then it has to have < > around
each
fingered note.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: James E. Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2008 16:01
To: Nick Payne
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving guitar fingering orientations
I don't know too much about fingerings, but did you try putting each
note inside a chord?
On 12.10.2008, at 05:50, Nick Payne wrote:
I'm trying to get my fingering indications below the noteheads
using
\set
fingeringOrientations = #'(down), but they remain resolutely above
the beam.
I also tried (left) and (right) with no change either. My two bar
test input
and output are attached. Can anyone tell me why this isn't
working?
I'm
using 2.11.61 on WinXP.
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