I can not help you with your special problem since I use my own font for chords and let them display as lyrics, but this way I get every chord displayed exactly as I want and writing out tranposed parts instead of using a special function doesn't take that much extra time.
Another point is that there's no standard jazz chord notation (that's why I actually use my own font) and while I agree that printing E# or Fb chords is bad to sightread I don't think every Cb chord should be notated as B. In my opinion a ii V I needs always to be correctly notated and if you transpose Dm7 G7 CMaj down a halfstep you'd get Dbm7 Gb7 BMaj which in theory wouldn't be a ii V I anymore and leads to confusion while sightreading. I just reread your first post and I noticed that sou said you have the chords fis2:m7 b2:7 | e2:maj7 cis2:m7 | in the key of C and you tried to transpose them half a step down. These chords are actually in the key of E and if you tranposed them from E to Eb you'd probably get what you want. regards, Tao -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:04:42 -0700 (PDT) > Von: Robert Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Re:F7 chord appearing as E#7 when I transpose (Paul Scott) > I'm the (newbie) person whose post instigated this thread. I > faithfully applied the advice given, but alas the result was not > satisfactory. The > lead sheet is a classic example of the worst possible case: The "A" > section starts with I VI II V. The "B" section transposes the "A" section > into > the key of III, then transposes the "A" section into the key of "IV". > That worst possible case makes the transposition into keys with four or more > sharps look terrible because, for example, in the key of "B major " the "B" > section has chord "E#m7". While a purist might argue that is the correct > representation, it is completely unacceptable to give a lead sheet with > that chord to a member of a jazz group because instant, fast sight reading is > required in jazz. It must be notated as Fm7. > When I used the clever Scheme technique recommended, it could not > handle this worst possible case song. Specifically, in the part of the "B" > section that is the "A" section transposed into the key of III, it turned the > "E#m7" into an "F#6/sus#2" and it changed an "A#7" into a "A#7bb6/susb4". > However in the part of the "B" section where it transposed the "A" section > into the key of IV it did it perfectly, rendering the chords as F7m7 and > b7. > I do appreciate the suggestion I received, but I do not want to leave > the impression it worked for me because clearly my needs have not been > filled here. > To paraphrase my jazz piano teacher, what is ultimately needed here is > a "jazz mode" where it can be specified as an inviolable rule that an E# > chord is always rendered as an F chord, a B# chord is always rendered as a > "C" chord. My jazz teacher was uncertain about whether a Cb chord should > always be rendered as a "B" chord. He thought about it and finally decided he > thought it should be always rendered as a "B" chord. This is a need for > jazz musicians, not for classical musicians. > Anyway, thank you very much for the timely suggestion. I do appreciate > it even though so far it's not working for me. > > >> Since the same request has appeared for ordinary notes, some clever > Scheme > >> hackers have > >> made a function that automatically gets rid of the extra accidentals by > >> enharmonically rewriting the > >> music. > > >Dumb question: are we sure we still do need the ordinary \transpose? > > >If not, may be we could make it "smarter" by implementing the snippet > >as a default code... (possibly keeping the current function as an > >\old-transpose command for backwards compatibility?) > > >Or is it likely to break many many many things? > > >Cheers, > >Valentin > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
