On 18 May 2008, at 22:47, immanuel litzroth wrote:
I am talking about C. That was what my argument was about. Now you
bring C++ -- Has somebody pointed out to you that that is a
different standard? -- into the argument saying out that it does
not have a "formal grammar". Are you making this up as we go along?
C++ was developed out of C by automating by hand programming
techniques; cf. e.g. Bjarne Stroustrup, "The Design and Evolution of C
++".
C++ has the same preprocessor as C, and the same grammar sentence
symbol, and a language subset. GCC has options for invoking the
preprocessor and language proper separately.
I think I'd best conclude this discussion by saying:
1) Haskell has the most sophisticated module system that requires
the implementation to deduce dependencies.
Yes, Haskell has a import and module system which is more
sophisticated than C/C++ include and namespace.
2) C/C++ standards each define several languages among which there
is a "preprocessor language" that every implementation is required
to support.
Each only in effect define two: the preprocessor and the language
proper.
3) You were right all along and I was totally mistaken.
I recommend the Usenet newsgroups comp.std.* for C and C++, and the
Haskell-Cafe mailing lists.
Hans
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