On 10/5/07, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I was searching for a method to add a flat / sharp sign to a long trill. I > found a a couple of tips [1, 2] that helped me along but there was a small > drawback, though. The custom TextSpanner / TrillSpanner aligns the wavy line > at the bottom of the trill sign (see 2nd bar) or at the bottom of the flat / > sharp sign (3rd bar). I tried to change the #'bound-details #'left #'Y > parameter of the TextSpanner but I was only able to make the wavy line to > ascend or descend. :-) I wonder if there are any other parameters, which > would help adjusting the position of the wavy line. > > Another thing... It also seems quite difficult to make a long trill to stop > at the bar line (not stopping at a note). It is possible but it requires > some tweaking (using another voice with hidden notes). I tried to stop the > spanner at a silent pause but the wavy line disappeared completely and the > trill sign was thrown to the left margin. I found a property for the custom > TextSpanner: #'to-barline = ##t but it doesn't seen to do the trick. Some > sort of padding was proposed in [3] although tried to address a slightly > different problem. > > I must admit that I'm not sure if any of the phenomenon I described are > bugs. I was just experimenting with the trill thingie and came up with some > problems. It also is possible that some of the trill markings are not > "valid" or recommended but I have seen then used in some examples. > > > Best Regards, > > Risto > > [1] http://www.nabble.com/Sharp-and-flat-trills-tf2148083.html#a5931684 > [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg07544.html > [3] http://www.nabble.com/Barcheck-and-TrillSpan-t4383866.html#a12497316 > > http://www.nabble.com/file/p13060032/trb.png Snippet in PNG format. > > %%%%%%%%% Snippet start %%%%%%%%%%%%% > \version "2.11.34" > > trstyle = { > \override TextSpanner #'style = #'trill > \override TextSpanner #'edge-height = #'(0 . 1) > } > > trflatstartI = { > \trstyle > \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text = > \markup{\musicglyph #"scripts.trill" > \raise #1.0 \smaller \flat} > } > > trflatstartII = { > \trstyle > \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text = > \markup{ \column{\tiny\smaller\smaller\smaller{\flat} > {\musicglyph #"scripts.trill"}}} > } > > one = \relative c' { > f2.. \startTrillSpan f8 \stopTrillSpan | > \trflatstartI f2..^\startTextSpan f8 \stopTextSpan | > \trflatstartII f2..^\startTextSpan f8 \stopTextSpan | > f1 | <<f1\startTrillSpan {s2... s16 \stopTrillSpan}>> > } > > two = \relative c' { > s1 | s | s | > \hideNotes f2... \startTrillSpan f16 \stopTrillSpan \unHideNotes | > s1 > } > > \new Staff { > << > \one > \two > >> > } > %%%%%%%%% Snippet end %%%%%%%%%%%%%
Hi Risto,
(One of) the settings you seek is ...
\override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'stencil-align-dir-y = #CENTER
... which you can, for example, include in your definition of
trflatstartI. Like this:
%%%%%%%% New snippet %%%%%%%%%%%%%
\version "2.11.34"
trstyle = {
\override TextSpanner #'style = #'trill
\override TextSpanner #'edge-height = #'(0 . 1)
}
trflatstartI = {
\trstyle
\override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'stencil-align-dir-y = #CENTER
\override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup{\musicglyph #"scripts.trill"
\raise #1.0 \smaller \flat}
}
trflatstartII = {
\trstyle
\override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup{ \column{\tiny\smaller\smaller\smaller{\flat}
{\musicglyph #"scripts.trill"}}}
}
one = \relative c' {
f2.. \startTrillSpan f8 \stopTrillSpan |
\trflatstartI f2..^\startTextSpan f8 \stopTextSpan |
}
\new Staff {
<<
\one
>>
}
%%%%%%%%% END %%%%%%%%%%%%%
Other goodies like this can be found under 8.1.2 "Trill and line
spanners" in the 2.11 version of the manual.
As far as #'to-barline = ##t ... I think that that *was*, in fact,
supposed to work in precisely this case, so that may be a bug; but
I'll have to run a few more testfiles first.
And, as a sidenote, the layered voices technique you're using is
pretty common tool for many of us on the list; even though it looks
like a pain when you first stumble upon it, the technique works
surprisingly well. Two notes, though: skips like s4 do behave
differently that (invisible) notes and rests for spacing purposes, as
you're discovering; that's perfectly normal (but I think there may be
a PaperColumn override to make skips behave the same way in the
spacing problem; again I need to check). Also, you can get rid of the
clashing note columns (which are quite common when you use hidden
voices) with the incantation ...
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
... which you can either set globally for an entire voice or score (or
call selectively).
I haven't adjusted the y alignment on trflatstartII; if you figure it
out could you post back to the list?
Trevor.
--
Trevor Bača
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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