Bonnie,
only a brief message for the moment to ask you if you would consider
adapting the Absolute Beginners Guide for Windows users? (the final
title has been your suggestion, if I remember it right).
I don't know exactly what does and does not belong in this list. Must
learn it gradually, like everything else.
Manuel
Am 29/12/2006 um 21:47 schrieb Bonnie Rogers:
Manuel wrote:
John Mandreau:
My offer to integrate your work into the official tutorial was
premature, as it is not clear now how to integrate it (or add it)
into
the official docs, that's why I second Joe and Graham's
suggestion: the
ideal current hosting of your work is certainly a wiki, for example
http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/ If you need help for adding
your work
there, just ask me ;-)
Yes, I have a problem with this, that I still don't know it or
understand the wiki at all, so I wouldn't know what I'm talking
about. I beg to have time to "have a look at it" but taking into
consideration that I am short of time - aren't we all... - and so
I have set myself the task of writing the Absolute Beginners'
guide in the first place, or second actually, since I am preparing
a didactical work of a certain size. This, of course, on top of
other things. Let me concentrate in the writing, maybe when Daniel
goes ahead with his posting of the Spanish version I'll learn a
thing or two.
Alternatively, it could be posted with the documentation as
"Absolute Beginners' Guide" in difference to the "General
Tutorial" and see what happens.
Manuel
Hi Manuel,
I felt the same way you did about the wiki, but I took a few
minutes late last night to check it out, and I found that it really
is quite friendly and easy to use. I may not have figured out
everything, but I had no trouble setting up an "account" for myself
and doing a couple of minor edits. The wiki is new and hasn't been
used much, but I can see its potential for us Lilypond users. There
is a section called "Tutorials" all ready for you to insert your
Mac OS version of Chapter 1 of the "Absolute Beginner's Guide." If
the powers-that-be agree, I really think the wiki would be a better
place to improve and expand Lilypond help for beginners on various
operating systems. I might have some suggestions for a Windows
version of the "Absolute Beginner's Guide", but I know that what I
would have to say would be of no interest to the main Lilypond
users list except perhaps to give the Linux people a chance to
snicker.
I would hope that if we succeed in developing a good set of
"Absolute Beginner's" information, the main users list and the main
Lilypond documentation would cross-reference to it as appropriate.
I also think that it would make better sense to use the wiki for
discussions of pedagogy and word usage in various languages. My own
academic training was in literature and in education rather than in
musicology, so I personally find these topics fascinating, even
when the language in question is Spanish, which I have never had an
opportunity to learn, but I suspect that many readers of the main
list do not feel the way I do and may resent the way language
discussions are swelling the volume of emails. On the wiki, one
could set up separate discussions of pedagogy, English musical
terms, Spanish musical terms, German musical terms, French musical
terms, and so forth. Wiki users can choose which of these
discussions to follow instead of having to sort through everything.
If M. Mandreau agrees, perhaps he could help get the process
started by copying some of these threads from the main list into
the wiki, and then those of us who are interested could try it and
see how we like it. If you gave permission, Manuel, maybe M.
Mandreau would insert a copy of the "Absolute Beginners Guide" into
the wiki for you. Editing the wiki was easy, but so far I didn't
figure out how a user would go about inserting something completely
new.
Best wishes for the New Year to all!
Bonnie
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