Eyolf Ostrem wrote:
On Thu 03 August 2006 22:35, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote:
You'll hardly find a jazz fake book that does not use triangles somewhere
or always for M7, take a look at Aebersold, Hal Leonard, Sher, etc.
Agreed - but that's jazz. In the contexts that I use - classical, rock, folk,
and ascii tabs - it's hardly ever used.
The "o" with a slash through it now, that is less widely known, most people
prefer to see "m7b5" instead, that one IS an abomination because so many
people dont notice that slash and play a diminished chord mistakenly.
Agreed.
The "o" with no slash for diminished and "+" for augmented 5th forms are
widely accepted though.
Yes, but (a) the "o" can mean the diminished fifth only,
Not correctly. The circle always means fully diminished and the slashed
circle means half diminished. I agree that it is potentially confusing
and this a good reason for using 7b9.
or the full
dim(7)chord. The latter is, in my experience, the most common usage. And (b)
on my tab site (dylanchords.com) I used to use them, for brevity, but I still
got so many questions about them ("What does E+ mean?), that I switched to
the more verbose Eaug. This could of course mainly be an indication of the
musical illiteracy among Dylan fans, but I think it's also an indication that
a more intuitive system is needed, because there are large user groups where
these symbols are not known and used.
I'm not against having a system in Lilypond with all these symbols, but I find
it strange and unfortunate that there is no pre-defined alternative with the
standard (or next-to-standard) verbose forms: aug, dim, maj7, m7-5,
preferrably even the 'short-verbose' forms maj9, m9-5 (instead of m7/b5/9 -
strange order...), and the inconsistent o7 for the 'dim' chord.
The alternative setup to Ignatzek - how many of you have ever used it? Or seen
it in use?
I think it's clear that many of us would like this notation. The
default chord names are partially usable and I don't know who uses the
alternate system.
Paul
One last thing: why is it that only in the German forms can added bass notes
be in lower case? I find it invaluable for sight-playing to be able to
quickly distinguish between essential and accidental, and a notation like G/D
is less clear than G/d, in my opinion.
Eyolf
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