Hi Tina,

Your right - it was the grace note confusing me.   I assumed logical time
was wall time :-)

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns.html

This gives me the durations I expect in midi.  8th note triplets 1/3.

  \tuplet 3/2 { d8\3  e\2 a\1 }
  \tuplet 3/2 { c8\1  a\1 e\2 }
  \tuplet 3/2 { g8\2  a8\1 e8\2 }
  \tuplet 3/2 { d8\3 c\3 a\4s }

This is what I'm looking to  see on the score - is there a way to show
bends without using grace notes?

Best

Lee

[image: riff with bends.png]





On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 at 14:32, Tina Petzel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> I am not sure what issue you have. Am I correct that you have an issue
> with
> MIDI output?
>
> > I'm using a hidden grace note to do this - I assume that is valid.  I
> > expected  to see rhythm of 1/3 for all 3 notes.   It's very close but the
> > first two triplets seem wrong.  The third is correct and that was a whole
> > note bend.  The 4th triplet is correct too.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure grace notes don't form part of rythym - I'm using grace
> > note for full note bend, 1/4 note bend.   You'll see the midi I collected
> > below the ly file.
>
> Grace notes are played back before the beat in MIDI, and will thus shorten
> the
> played duration of the previous note. Also I am not sure what you mean by
> `0.2516th`. Would that be a note of roughly 4 whole bars? Also do you not
> find
> the grace notes in the MIDI output?
>
> Best regards,
> Tina

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