Am Mo., 18. Juli 2022 um 18:43 Uhr schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser <l...@gmx.de>: > > Forgive me for piping up: > > I'm not able to say what happened, I'm not able to debug because of > > that unhelpful (oh, I'm very polite this evening) guile messages, see > > the other thread. > > > > I'm overtired like hell, close to trashing the whole project, and > > close to advertising everyone to not use LilyPond for huge custom > > codings. > > That would be a pity, seeing as you're one of the most virtuoso > suppliers of non-trivial LilyPond scheme extensions. > > I regularly switch back to old Guile v1.8 LilyPond versions (that's very > easy in Frescobaldi) if my Scheme code gets to complicated for me - this > happens quite often :-) - and I want to have meaningful debug messages. > Maybe that's a compromise one has to make for the time being. > > In any case, please don't let yourself get frustrated: Remember how lots > of people were very grateful for your experiences and insights regarding > extending LilyPond you could share in Salzburg two years ago; they are > even more important since you declare yourself to be "not a programmer", > if I recall correctly, and hence probably closer to the LilyPond users > without a computer science/maths/... background than most people on this > list (and certainly on -devel) are. This project needs you. :-) > > Hang on in there! > > Lukas >
Hi Lukas, I will not vanish from the list/project in the foreseeable future, unless hit by bus... Though in my humble opinion meaningful error messages are the most pressing issue and I don't see I could do anything to improve the situation. That is frustrating, furthermore I was stuck in a huge coding I could not debug, because of those not-messages. (I'll insert some german words now, not knowing them in english). Every time I get such a not-message it feels like "Verarschung". At the end of a day I feel not frustrated but realy pissed. Sometimes writing about that is a possbility come down a bit, even at the risk someone gives me a "Kopfnuss". ;) Nevertheless, did you read https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2022-07/msg00234.html ? Thanks Jean, I found a possibility to workaround. That said, ... It shouldn't be that hard to code with guilev2 in LilyPond. Cheers, Harm
