At 17:30 04/05/2022 -0600, Jeff Olson wrote:
... I'm adding phrase marks ...
... I caught myself sometimes ending the phrase on the first note of
a tied pair, and at other times going all the way to the last note
of the tie. [...]
What would Elaine Gould do?
I can answer that bit.
"When a final pitch is extended by a series of tied notes, it is
acceptable (and a convention) to end the slur with the first
whole-bar duration; alternatively, in cramped conditions, with the
first tied note. When an initial note is tied, the slur may begin
with the final written tied note if absolutely necessary, to save
space; however, it is much better to clarify phrase length by
starting the slur with the first note." (Behind Bars, p 113)
Incidental examples elsewhere in the book follow the same principle:
that of having the slur encompass all the notes in the phrase.
So she would accept both examples in your first staff, as well as the
first example in your second staff - but the second example your
second staff only "in cramped conditions".
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker