Please include the list when replying. I think this conversation serves no further purpose, so I won't reply anymore. K
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 12:46 PM Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com> wrote: > It is on stringed instruments one gets the Pythagorean tuning. A flute > does not have such relative pitch references. > > > > On 6 Aug 2021, at 21:41, Kees van den Doel <kvd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Excuse me for being direct, but this is nonsense. It's nice you've read > that (outdated) book but I've been actively performing Persian music for > decades and I know how we tune. If you want to learn check out my website > https://persianney.com. > > > > Kees > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 11:47 AM Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com> wrote: > > > > > On 6 Aug 2021, at 18:46, Kees van den Doel <kvd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Well I know Persian music very well, and the tuning as-is is perfect, > so I'm not sure what we are talking about here. > > > Persian music doesn't "raise by commas". There are no "different > tunings", there is the current MIDI tuning which is correct and anything > different is wrong. > > > > The values you have set are wrong from the theoretical point of view: > > > > Persian music uses the Pythagorean tuning of which E53 is a close > approximation. The average values that Hormoz Farhat's Dastgah book > indicates is a neutral second raised about two commas from the minor > second, which is what one typically uses. > > > > E53 has a sharp that is 5 commas, but a minor second m = 4 and a major > second M = 5, which is what Graham Breed's file regular.ly does. > > > > You have merely divided the LilyPond sharp into 5 parts, then using the > theoretical comma values indicated above, without adjusting the minor and > major seconds, so you land on E60. > > > >