Hi Gerard,

Am 11.12.19 um 14:46 schrieb Gerard McConnell:
I get the impression that most of the serious Lilypond users want to use only Lilypond for editing their scores.


This is partly true.


I used Lilypond with Inkscape for years, for my purposes it was an ideal combination since I could create absolutely any graphic effect or edit on the scores; no extra programming required, just editing with Inkscape.  I think the reason that more people don't work that way is because they can publish more easily using Lilypond alone, extract parts, or make changes in the music any time.


This is true but does not apply to Paolo's suggestion. The problem many LilyPond users see is that when you need to make tweaks afterwards you are essentially blocked from updating the content without having to redo all the post-processing.

Paolo's idea would integrate the results of the post-processing into the LilyPond input files and would therefore not suffer from this problem.

I'll have to find the time to continue with my initial comment about integrating this into Frescobaldi.

Urs



On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 4:19 AM Paolo Pr <paolopr...@gmail.com <mailto:paolopr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Perhaps I found an easy way to modify slurs with any svg editor,
    and automatically (or semi-automatically) correct the .ly file
    with the changes made.
    The procedure is the following, and I need a little help for the
    programming parts in the Scheme language (I know it too badly to
    write the functions myself, but I can take care of the rest of the
    code, see the steps below)

    1) For each slur, I visually generate the control points, using
    the excellent function written by Aaron:

    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-11/msg00266.html

    2) [Need help!] For each group of four control_points, I need to
    associate four IDs obtained with a global variable that is
    incremented with each new slur. For example, if I have two slurs
    in my score, the control points IDs will be:

    slur_1_cp_1, slur_1_cp_2, slur_1_cp_3, slur_1_cp_4,

    slur_2_cp_1, slur_2_cp_2, slur_2_cp_3, slur_2_cp_4

    This ID must be set in the SVG object corresponding to each
    control point. Can anyone modify the previous lilybin snippet to
    get this result?
    I know it is possible to do this, from what I read on this page:

    
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/alternative-output-formats

    3) I open with an editor (for example: Inkscape) the generated SVG
    file; next to each slur to be corrected, I draw the correct slur
    (bezier curve), and I associate to this slur (always with the
    editor) an ID equal to the ID of the respective control points,
    without the final substrting. For example, if the control points
    have id equal to "slur_1_cp_1 (/ 2/3/4)", I will assign to the
    slur drawn with the editor ID = "slur_1"

    4) At this point (I can write a script in Python or some other
    programming language), I can parser the new svg file (with some
    xml library) and calculate for each slur created with Inkscape,
    identified with IDSLUR, the difference of coordinates (x, y)
    between its control points and control points with ID =
    IDSLUR_cp_1, IDSLUR_cp_2, IDSLUR_cp_3, IDSLUR_cp_4

    5) Once these differences are obtained, I can apply this function
    (taken from http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=777 ) for each slur
    to modify:

    \shapeSlur # '(x1 y1 x2 y2 x3 y3 x4 y4)

    Where x1 y1 x2 y2 x3 y3 x4 y4 are precisely the differences
    between the control points coordinates, just calculated.

    What do you think? Is it worth it? If someone can write the
    function of point 2) (it shouldn't be difficult, nor
    time-consuming), I can take care of point 4)

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