J Martin Rushton <martinrushto...@btinternet.com> writes:

> Have a listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcI8KV4ftCk and then
> tell me the recorder isn't a serious instrument.

Try <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fI9_1qLXmc>.  Look how Frans
Brüggen is not just working with his fingers but also with his cheeks
(and deduce what he is doing with his breath) and mouth and recorder
angle.

This side track of the discussion was about the ubiquity of starting
school children on recorders.

> If you want _real_ agony, try listening to beginners on a violin - the
> cat's revenge.

But the remedy on a violin's pitch deviations is much more direct once
you become aware of them.  With regard to pitch correctness,
intermediate violin players tend to be less cruel than intermediate
recorder players.

-- 
David Kastrup

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