HI Phil,

It's still very confusing for people, I claim. This landscape business
having two modes is unique to lilypond, I think, so people will stumble
over it for a long time to come. Because it is unfamiliar behaviour, people
will not be reading manuals looking for unusual behaviour.

Andrew


On 21 December 2017 at 19:36, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Harkins" <jamshar...@zoho.com>
> To: "Andrew Bernard" <andrew.bern...@gmail.com>; "lilypond-user" <
> lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Required font for simplified Chinese characters?
>
>
>
> ---- On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:23:46 +0800 Andrew Bernard wrote ----
>>
>>> With the release of stable version 2.20 coming out in the forseeable
>>> future, and with 2.19.80 being really stable and excellent, could you
>>> considering moving up? No crash occurs at 2.19.80, and there are dozens of
>>> really good new features in this series, well worth having.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry to come back very late to this thread.
>>
>> I just tried 2.19.80, and this version *can* render simplified Chinese
>> characters. Yes!
>>
>> BUT... in 2.19, the handling of landscape orientation has changed.
>>
>> In my v2.18.2 document, I used:
>>
>> #(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape)
>>
>> ... and I got a document that was wider than it is tall, and I could read
>> the notation on screen directly. That's what I wanted.
>>
>> In 2.19.80, without changing the code, I got a document whose paper is in
>> portrait orientation, and whose notation was rotated 90 degrees
>> counterclockwise. Staff lines read *upward* (???!) on the screen. Which...
>> for reading is... shall we say, difficult.
>>
>> #(set-default-paper-size "a4landscape") gives me the layout I wanted.
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is intentional. The manual says "If the symbol
>> 'landscape is added to the paper size function, pages will be rotated by 90
>> degrees, and wider line widths will be set accordingly." I am seeing that
>> the page *contents* were rotated by 90 degrees and line widths were set
>> accordingly, but the page dimensions did not rotate. So it isn't accurate
>> to say that the **pages** will be rotated.
>>
>> Try it yourself:
>>
>> \version "2.19.80"
>> #(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape)
>> \relative c' { c4 d e f g a b c }
>>
>> Is it a bug, or out-of-date documentation?
>>
>> I'm fairly sure nobody wants the behavior that is currently documented as
>> the first option.
>>
>> hjh
>>
>
> See http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/PDF-landscape-issue-
> td204230.html
>
>
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