I *told* you it would be a great nerd-fight. So long as we argue in good faith, and stay friends afterwards, it's all in good spirit.
<3 On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Rafael Ramirez Morales < rafael.ramirezmora...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks everybody. > > This has been one of the funniest flames in recent memory. > > Funny because a benign "do not use HTML mail" hits the fan at warp speed. > > Funny, because we are talking about LilyPond users here: > Many non-technical end users, maybe transitioning from > WYSIWYG/point-click to WYSIWYM. > Many if not most users producing complex graphically loaded typeset > documents, often attached to the emails, because they're impossible to > explain "in plain text" (and a major violation to other netiquette > standards). > > Ultimately funny because, as mailing lists go, usually one uses the > tool at hand. Sometimes its Outlook, sometimes a WebMail application, > sometimes ThunderBird, Mutt, Gnus, pine, or a toaster. Many end users > may not even know, or usually can't choose their MUA. > > So, as much as I agree on principle to recommend some "best practices" > for a mailing list, sometimes the best one can do is ask and hope for > the best. > > (And to add to the General Knowledge base, Gmail allows for plain text > emails. Click on the down arrow at the bottom right of your message > and select "Plain text".) > > Cheers. > > On 27 April 2016 at 17:33, David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > > On Wed 27 Apr 2016, Chris Yate wrote: > > > >> To be honest, I'd suggest you ignore the people that whinge about HTML > >> emails, top-posting, etc. For the 20-something years I've been using the > >> internet there's always been pedantic arses on mailing lists that would > >> rather beat people up about the format of emails and people's grammar > and > >> spelling than answer the damn question. > > > > > >> On 27 Apr 2016, "Andrew Bernard" <andrew.bern...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Although I started this thread, it was purely because David Wright had > >> > mentioned the difficulty to another user, as he had to me. I am not > the one > >> > complaining! Wanting to be considerate of all folks on the list I > took some > >> > effort to configure my Outlook in Office 365 to produce the correct > output > >> > for HTML and plain text email with internet quoting style replies. It > can > >> > certainly be done. There is no reason to ask people to stop using > Outlook. > >> > What has changed is that its current default behaviour is the > opposite of > >> > the past, and I was attempting to alert people to that. Even I was > unaware. > > [...] > >> > In my opinion, internet etiquette would suggest that one be > considerate > >> > of the community of mailing list users, and try to accomodate > everyone as > >> > best one can. I can’t see why this is not desirable. Or perhaps I am > >> > completely obsolete, and etiquette in general is now considered old > >> > fashioned. > > > >> With all due respect, considerate is as considerate does. Shouting and > >> screaming because you use some obscure tool that doesn't work the way > 99% > >> of the internet messaging tools in use work, and expect people to be > >> accommodating of you, isn't considerate. > > > > > >> ...to be clear > >> > >> I understand not everyone uses the same tools and we have different > needs. > >> The thing that tends to rile me is the tone of the complaints. > > > > > > I have in the recent past posted (the first being the "Exhibit One" > > of this thread): > > > > "Please can you quote in a way that's visible in text clients, not just > HTML ones." > > > > "Please configure your client to post a text equivalent of your HTML > code." > > > > Perhaps you could help me improve the tone of these sentences as I > > don't want to be accused of shouting and screaming. > > > > Cheers, > > David. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > > -- > We are (...) star stuff contemplating the stars (...) We are one > species. We are star stuff harvesting star light. > -- Carl Sagan > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >
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