Hi Karl,

perhaps I just don't get your point. But sometimes it helps if you don't
insist on a particular way of solving a problem but rather describe the
problem/the goal and be open for the best solution.

A bar is not an object on itself but it is there because there is music
between two points in time. Then LilyPond will put the barlines etc. to
represent the bar on paper. So what is the point of having a bar and
hiding it?

For your question LilyPond has many clever ways to define the length of
hairpins. But adding more music and then not showing it seems like a
strange workaround for hairpin placement.

Cheers,
Joram


PS: Besides the already mentioned solutions, the to-barline property
might also be interesting.

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