Thanks, I will look into that! I'm also interested in the rest placement function.
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote: > I've been doing something similar with madrigals from around 1590. You > will likely find tags useful, to identify where you need to use different > notation for modern and ancient music. If you can't see how this works, > please let me know: I don't have time right now to give examples. > > I also have a function kindly created by David Kastrup that allows a rest > to be placed on a non-standard staff line in mensural music, but the normal > staff line in modern. Let me know if you're interested. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Frauke Jurgensen > To: Phil Holmes > Cc: LilyPond User Group > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: Mensural notation: 2 questions > > > > Yes, some decades ago (i.e. when Apel was writing), it was common to > transcribe mensural music at a value reduction of 4:1 (i.e. 3/4 for > Circle); now, 3/2 is a more common transcription level, and most specialist > performers prefer to read either from original note values (if > transcribed), or from original notation, if the manuscript isn't filled > with errors like the examples I'm currently dealing with. I'm working on a > bigger project that may involve generating multiple versions in different > types of notation from the same source file; from that point of view, it > would be more convenient if the mensural sign was more closely attached to > the meaning. In the meantime, at least I can get the symbol, so thanks for > that! > > > Thanks for the point about the clefs! Now I know why it works. > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote: > > My understanding is that the Mensural time signatures are simply mapped to > a convenient, similar modern signature. Thus what we now refer to a > "common time" (4/4) maps to a broken circle, which it resembles. Since > there are no bar lines in mensural music, the actual time signature is > pretty much irrelevant when setting music. FWIW, Apel says that ancient > "circle" time (tempus perfectum) maps to modern 3/4 time. > > Under 1.1.3, "Clef", the Notation Reference tells us that "Clef names > containing non-alphabetic characters must be enclosed in quotes". > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Frauke Jurgensen > To: LilyPond User Group > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:45 PM > Subject: Mensural notation: 2 questions > > > > Hello all, > > > I suspect I'm just being a bit thick...typesetting some mensural notation, > and having an issue with the mensural signs/time sigs. It looks like the > definitions of these in terms of modern time signatures are in half values; > e.g., "Circle" maps on to 3/2, when it should map on to 3/1. > > > My second issue is that lilypond initially couldn't seem to find any of > the various mensural clefs that have a number on the end. I managed to make > it work by enclosing the clef name in double quotes, but am not sure why > that worked. > > > Cheers, > > Frauke > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >
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